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The new and improved, fight-free Romney vs. Obama thread!

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by MisterCreosote, May 16, 2012.

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  1. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Has there ever been a documented anti-bounce from a modern convention?
     
  2. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    And if Obama went on a vacation, the RWSM would be whining that he should be working.

    In other words, he's either lazy or scared. Got it. Yep.
     
  3. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    I don't think Obama is safe, but this is fanboy the other way.

    A bump from the VP choice? I seriously doubt it. Unless your VP candidate is a total crank (cough ... Sarah Palin) no one cares.

    And money doesn't mean squat unless there's a message behind it ... which Romney sorely lacks.

    There's a reason why Republicans are grumbling about his candidacy ... he doesn't move the needle. And the fight over the "fiscal cliff" to come is likely going to help Obama at the expense of the Republicans who are viewed, rightly, by many Americans as obstructionist.

    It's going to take an event foreseen or unforeseen to get Romney through, which, I grant, could happen.

    But lets not spike the football when you're not even to midfield yet.
     
  4. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I could see the right/wrong VP choice helping or hurting by a couple points... I don't think it's as simple as somebody being the difference between winning or losing, but for example, if he picks Rubio and Rubio ensures that he wins Florida and gives him a 1-2 point bump it can still make a difference...
     
  5. How many months of over 8% unemployment? How big is the deficit? Romney doesn't have a message?

    I cannot make the blind see.
     
  6. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    Meh. I could be wrong, but I doubt there's many people in Florida who would be moved to vote for Romney because of Rubio that weren't already voting for Romney.

    It's possible, though also unlikely, it could backfire on Romney as it might gin up the Florida Democrats who can't stand Rubio.
     
  7. Bubbler

    Bubbler Well-Known Member

    You just did it. His message is pointing out statistics.

    We can all do that. There are probably high-functioning chimps and dolphins who can do it too.

    His job is to find solutions to make those statistics better.

    And in that way, he's sorely lacking any message whatsoever.
     
  8. Zeke12

    Zeke12 Guest

    538 still has Obama 2-1 to win.

    The rest is just noise.
     
  9. 23 million people out of work are not just statistics.

    Have you no compassion? Are you really that blind to think that 4 more years of the same tax and spend policies will make things better?

    Really? I know this board is 90% pro-Obama but really?
     
  10. deskslave

    deskslave Active Member

    Americans don't vote against incumbents. They vote for challengers. You're not going to win this election on the strength of a 52% vote for not-Obama. You have to convince people to vote FOR Romney, not against Obama.

    Either that, or you have to hope that enough Obama voters from 2008 don't bother coming out. Or, more accurately, that they do try, but that GOP vote suppression efforts have the desired effect.
     
  11. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Chris L, what will Romney do to change those statistics, besides getting dividend checks forwarded to 1600 Penn. Ave.?
     
  12. doctorquant

    doctorquant Well-Known Member

    2-1? I might take a bit of that action.
     
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