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The Ray Rice Elevator Video

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by YankeeFan, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Gotcha. I misunderstood.
     
  2. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    Ray's getting another chance after he attends counseling. Bet your house on that.

    First transgression. Big transgression, but first transgression.
     
  3. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    I suggest we almost ignore Mrs. Rice's comments; many professionals say that victims protect the abusers and will go to great lengths to do so; that's why the State has the sole power to prosecute and press charges, independent of the victim's view.

    Bringing up the Hardy and Suggs cases sheds light on the problem but should not obscure how badly the NFL and the Ravens screwed this up.
     
  4. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    No worries.
     
  5. Machine Head

    Machine Head Well-Known Member

    What today was about is you don't fuck with the revenue stream.

    And if you do, make sure you have the juice to ride it out.
     
  6. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    I am not in anyway defending Greg Hardy, but he is in the eyes of the law of the state of the North Carolina considered "Not Guilty" at this point. To say that he has appealed a guilty verdict is factually correct, but without explanation either shows ignorance of how North Carolina courts work or an intention to mislead. Unlike some other states - those who want a jury trial in North Carolina on a misdemeanor charge must first go before a judge in a court that is not a court of record and be found guilty. Once that has happened, should they choose to have a jury trial, they get a de novo trial - meaning the court system treats it as though the slate is completely wiped clean - in front of a jury in a court of record. To casually say he is "waiting appeal on a guilty verdict" makes the laymen think he has been found guilty by a jury and his case is now in front of an appellate court, which is not the case.

    And unlike in Ray Rice's case, there is no video recording out there that makes the case against Greg Hardy particularly strong. The Panthers and NFL would be wise to wait until the court system has given him due process before making a decision on his suspension.
     
  7. franticscribe

    franticscribe Well-Known Member

    Yes. This times a 100. Her story is consistent with the majority of DV victims I have dealt with.
     
  8. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    The Patriots did not waste anytime cutting Aaron Hernandez. Why wait on McDonald?
     
  9. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    First, for now...but it's just a matter of time before we hear of at least one other victim in his past.
     
  10. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Here's an issue I have with this. It seems like it's double jeopardy.

    The league knew the incident happened. Goodell issues the punishment. Now that the full video comes put, he issues a second punishment because he is embarrassed instead of just issuing the more severe punishment first.

    He's doing this out of embarrassment, not for punishment.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    The network morning shows pay for photos/videos all the time.

    Since they won't technically pay for an interview, they'll pay people as terrible as Casey Anthony for home videos or pictures.

    They could have bought this video, and when you consider how much money MLB paid to get documents in the Biogenesis investigation, you know the NFL could have bought it too if they wanted it.
     
  12. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Seems to me is that it's a private matter and the league is not bound by criminal law.

    Also possible that The League told Rice that 2 games could become more if the
    facts changed.
     
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