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My take:

- Daulerio wasn't trying to hurt Craggs' job prospects at Grantland. Craggs had done that himself with the Hoppes piece.
- Unrelated to my first point: Daulerio is a piece of shirt.
 
BYH said:
JackReacher said:
Ugh.

I guarantee you Tommy Craggs has no problem with that story. But, you need another reason to hate someone, so there you go.

Oh for the love of shirt give me a forking break with the holier-than-thou/wounded duck act. I know it hurt your feelings that I was telling the truth about your piece of shirt boy the entire time, but you're a big boy and I expected better from you.

Trust me. You don't hurt my feelings. You just damage my ability to give your opinions on certain matters any credibility. This being one.

I'm sorry you're a bitter former newspaper guy who believes he was treated badly. Or whatever the fork happened. But Daulerio wasn't trying to damage Craggs' job prospects.

"It is my hope, however, that Walsh will see that Tommy's exceptional writing talent shouldn't be passed over because of some philosophical disagreements he's had with several of ESPN's editorial and corporate decisions while he's a writer at Deadspin."

And like I said, I'd bet Craggs was fine with the piece. Anyone who reads Deadspin (OMG!! People actually read that shirt??!!? But it's not real journalism!!111) knows that.
 
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That wasn't meant as a low blow, although it seems like it was. My apologies. I was simply trying to connect the agenda-driven dots that I think led to his off-base take on the story in question. That's it. Not everyone is out to damage someone else's career.

Or some shirt. Whatever. I don't really even care that much.

Again, my apologies if that came off as a low blow. It was not meant that way. And I hope he knows that.
 
JackReacher said:
That wasn't meant as a low blow, although it seems like it was. My apologies. I was simply trying to connect the agenda-driven dots that I think led to his off-base take on the story in question. That's it. Not everyone is out to damage someone else's career.

Or some shirt. Whatever. I don't really even care that much.

Obviously.

Bitter former newspaper guy? Good to see you paid zero attention to my career arc, such as it was. I have zero agenda here, unlike the other issue you brought up (and I'm glad you did, b/c it's so obviously connected to THIS).

And find me one post where I express surprise people read Deadspin. It's not my cup of tea, but I'm not stupid enough to think people inside and outside the business--even bitter former newspaper guys who aren't actually bitter former newspaper guys--don't read it. I stand by my contention that it was a backhanded, passive-aggressive attempt by Daulerio to ruin Craggs' career. Maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

But I'm wasting my time here, because you obviously don't care enough to even discuss this w/someone who has no credibility. Silly me. Why would I ever think otherwise?

PS: Don't flatter yourself. You'd have to work a lot harder to pull a Tony Skinn on me.
 
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Just to get this thread back on track a little bit ... I'm not sold on grantland.com, but I hope it succeeds. It's great to see sites like grantland, byliner.com and Yahoo's Post Game popping up.

I hope it's a sign that there are readers out there besides us that are interested in high-quality stories, not just high quantity. As Moddy likes to say, "Give me something to read." These places will do that.
 
I'm hopeful it works, even though it's the competition. But history seems to say high-minded ideas about these kinds of things, particularly "long form," don't work very well with the largest web demographic.

My son thinks Bill Simmons is the greatest writer in the history of words. Somehow, I still love him.

My daughter isn't there -- but she loves Simmons too.

When filling out the ledger of why I want to keep on living, these aren't on the list.
 

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