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The Soccer thread (Part II)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Inky_Wretch, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    That's like saying Posnanski is a Pozzy-cakes for staying in Kansas City instead of taking on a "tough market" like NYC. Poz is brilliant and apparently happy.
    Sometimes, it's about what fits your life.
    I'd love it if Donovan would take his game to Spain, but does he owe it to the guys at World Soccer Daily or to his family?
     
  2. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    He should obviously do what makes him happy. But when the most skilled field player (by a wide margin) in the history of US Soccer seems content to swim in the shallow end of the pool for the prime of his career, I think that it is a waste and frankly wimpy. If he didn't like Germany, he could go to any top flight league and start with at least a middle of the table team.
     
  3. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    Like I said -- I wish he'd play in Spain. If he hated the Germany weather, England wouldn't be any better. I think he's certainly good enough to excel in any league -- to play for Champions League quality sides, not just mid-table teams. But I'm not going to rip him over it. He continues to improve and remains the best we've ever produced. And I believe playing with Beckham can't help but be good for him.
     
  4. sports scrub

    sports scrub Member

    http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=soc-nat/news/newstest.aspx?id=4155652

    "I'm told that after the foul Pablo picked up the ball and threw it to Danny Califf, just to buy a little bit of time," Bradley said. "You never know for sure but there is part of you that thinks the referee in that moment didn't realize he had already given him a yellow card."
     
  5. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Donovan doesn't necessarily NEED to go overseas. But learning how to play consistently well against non-CONCACAF national teams might be a good start.
     
  6. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member

    I am sorry to read this. Many of those people you are critical of are my friends.

    I would love it if the US supporters went towards the singing of the national anthem, God Bless America, This Land is Our Land, etc. However, I’m not in charge and I wasn’t at the game. I was standing was getting drunk out near Banff.
     
  7. Piotr Rasputin

    Piotr Rasputin New Member

    Sorry, Pastor. The fans just don't bring much creativity. I actually thought you were sitting behind me. There was an older dude who really knew his stuff. Thought for sure . . . .

    Our fans need to be better. Chanting college stuff and names is just ludicrous. Argentina's fans laughed at us.

    Also: it has been said Donovan is the best player the US has produced. It has also been said that Adu has the potential to be that.

    Me, I hope a third option presents itself before 2010.
     
  8. Beaker

    Beaker Active Member

    Altidore?
     
  9. Twoback

    Twoback Active Member

    It's a fan's job to be "creative"?
    Bullcrap. It's David Mamet's job to be creative.
    I hate this about soccer.
    It's a fan's job to be supportive. "Creativity" has led to all the crap in Toronto with the streamers, which is an embarrassment to the sport -- and, naturally, has been copied in Columbus.
    When soccer fans are creative like in Liverpool with the Mascherano chants sung to the Seven Nation Army tune, that's terrific. But a fan's job is to enjoy the game and to support his/her team however he/she sees fit within the bounds of good taste. If that means only cheering at goals, that's fine. You pay plenty for the privilege of getting in the stadium. You shouldn't have to entertain the other members of the audience as part of the price of admission.
    I was not at Giants Stadium, but it sounded on TV like the crowd did a nice job making the US feel like it was at home against some difficult odds because of the number of Argentine fans. The fans didn't appear to run out on the game when the rain began. Nobody should have to apologize for anything.
     
  10. Pastor

    Pastor Active Member

    Older? No. Not me. I haven't hit 30, yet. I would have been in section 101 with the rest of those guys, had I been there.

    Instead I was up in Calgary hanging out with Flash (seriously, it kicked ass, thread to come). The Rangers convention airline tickets and such were already booked up way before this game was scheduled. Such is life.

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    Twoback, on the subject of US fans... I would also like it a lot more if our fans were to belt out some great American classics. Songs like God Bless America, My Country 'Tis of Thee, This Land is Your Land, etc.

    I'm fine with the rest, but it would be damn impressive if the players on the field could hear God Bless America coming from the stands.
     
  11. Webster

    Webster Well-Known Member

    Big Phil to Chelski after the Euros.
     
  12. Grimace

    Grimace Guest

    Wow. I just can't see his temperment working with all those high-priced players. I guess he's done well with Brazilian and Portuguese egos, but it just doesn't seem like a good fit. When's the last South American to coach in the Premier League? Does this mean they have a shot at Ronaldinho?
     
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