The Veep Thread

[zagoshe]

Here is how I would change income tax --

I'd outlaw the practice of withholding taxes and I'd outlaw the practice of tacking sales tax on to the price of a product.

Instead, everything a person purchases would be added up and at the end of the year each person would get two bills -- one for sales tax and one for all of their other income taxes, including SSI, state and local taxes.

That would last all of one year before people would vote every Republican and Democrat out of office and threaten to send any politician who wants to raise taxes to the firing squad.

Interesting. I like that much, much better than the concept of simply abolishing taxes and leaving everyone to their device. How would you enforce it: government tabs on purchases, or is everyone responsible for keeping all receipts on his/her purchases?

Simple -- everyone has a card, similar to a credit card --- that gets swiped every time they make a purchase (no card, no purchase) -- and all it does is electornically keep a tab as to how much has been spent and the totals are tabulated in a database.....

Uh huh. And as a "conservative," giving the government this level of control and information about the purchases one is making would be totally OK with you?

I'm not a conservative I'm a libertarian who wants most taxes to end --- but you are right - as soon as I posted it I thought to myself -- "there is no way in heck I would agree to allowing the government track my purchases......"

So here is a less intrusive better way (mind you the whole goal is to create such an outrage about how much taxes are that people wise up and make a stand with the government) -- every purchase is tracked through merchants and the sales tax of say six percent is added to the entire bill, which is then split up evenly among every tax payer.......

 

[deskslave]

Who does pay for roads and police in your tax-free utopia? Does everyone just chip in what they see fit?

 

[zagoshe]

Who does pay for roads and police in your tax-free utopia? Does everyone just chip in what they see fit?

This one's for Fenian......

http://www.harrybrowne.org/GLO/GreatLibertarianOffer.htm

 

[RedSmithClone]

Who does pay for roads and police in your tax-free utopia? Does everyone just chip in what they see fit?

Cutting out the 5.3 percent income tax would still leave Massachusetts with $17 billion to budget.

I think that is plenty for these idiots to manage.

 

[Oz]

Again, what does any of this have to do with speculation about the veep picks?

 

[deskslave]

Who does pay for roads and police in your tax-free utopia? Does everyone just chip in what they see fit?

This one's for Fenian......

http://www.harrybrowne.org/GLO/GreatLibertarianOffer.htm

I will not claim to have read every word, but I skimmed it. Here's the thing: It didn't answer the damn question. And I don't happen to have a copy of Harry Browne's book lying around. So I'll ask again: Who pays for roads and police?

 

[RedSmithClone]

Again, what does any of this have to do with speculation about the veep picks?

This jumped the tracks from the original topic a while ago.

But, I'll say again McCain-Lieberman or McCain-Palin

 

[zagoshe]

Who does pay for roads and police in your tax-free utopia? Does everyone just chip in what they see fit?

This one's for Fenian......

http://www.harrybrowne.org/GLO/GreatLibertarianOffer.htm

I will not claim to have read every word, but I skimmed it. Here's the thing: It didn't answer the damn question. And I don't happen to have a copy of Harry Browne's book lying around. So I'll ask again: Who pays for roads and police?

Government would still have some functionality and those things with which it was constitutionallly allowed to do. And all of us would still pay our fair share -- were not abolishing ALL taxes, just the overwhelming majority of them because the bastards in Washington don't need an excuse to be wasteful......

 

[deskslave]

Who does pay for roads and police in your tax-free utopia? Does everyone just chip in what they see fit?

This one's for Fenian......

http://www.harrybrowne.org/GLO/GreatLibertarianOffer.htm

I will not claim to have read every word, but I skimmed it. Here's the thing: It didn't answer the damn question. And I don't happen to have a copy of Harry Browne's book lying around. So I'll ask again: Who pays for roads and police?

Government would still have some functionality and those things with which it was constitutionallly allowed to do. And all of us would still pay our fair share -- were not abolishing ALL taxes, just the overwhelming majority of them because the bastards in Washington don't need an excuse to be wasteful......

Couldn't help but notice you modified your earlier post from "all" taxes to "most." And, see, now it just becomes a matter of which services you think government should or shouldn't provide. And that's all very subjective.

And sorry, I don't think "roads" are mentioned anywhere in the Constitution.

 

[Yawn]

You're a myth.

Christians who are Democrats are a myth?

If you meant that -- you're pathetic.

He's said it a couple of dozen times, Ben.

So am I like Tyler Durden or something?

The first rule of being a Democratic Christian is you do not talk about being a Democratic Christian.

Cause, you know, it confuses people and stuff.

It sure as heck baffles the majority of those at any Democratic Party get-together. You might get a comment like "Well, that's nice that you try to reach out to those with a tendency for the superstitious. I mean, anything to get the votes."
And since you're a democrat first, they always have an assuring sense of your ultimate loyalty.

 

[DemoChristian]

You're a myth.

Christians who are Democrats are a myth?

If you meant that -- you're pathetic.

He's said it a couple of dozen times, Ben.

So am I like Tyler Durden or something?

The first rule of being a Democratic Christian is you do not talk about being a Democratic Christian.

Cause, you know, it confuses people and stuff.

It sure as heck baffles the majority of those at any Democratic Party get-together. You might get a comment like "Well, that's nice that you try to reach out to those with a tendency for the superstitious. I mean, anything to get the votes."
And since you're a democrat first, they always have an assuring sense of your ultimate loyalty.

You're just so clever, Yawn. How can I be more like you?

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Who does pay for roads and police in your tax-free utopia? Does everyone just chip in what they see fit?

Cutting out the 5.3 percent income tax would still leave Massachusetts with $17 billion to budget.

I think that is plenty for these idiots to manage.

I think it continues to be the Greatest Dumb Idea in the history of Dumb Ideas.
But it really doesn't have anything to do with this thread.
And zag, the correct answer to the question posed to you is, "The freeways rot, and the bridges collapse, but is a FREE PEOPLE that gets to fall into the river."