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Today in cops gone feral

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

    He needs to be chained by his feet to the trailer hitch of a pickup truck and dragged around town for an hour.
     
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  2. HappyCurmudgeon

    HappyCurmudgeon Well-Known Member

  3. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

    Back the blue.
     
  4. BitterYoungMatador2

    BitterYoungMatador2 Well-Known Member

    Best Job In….
     
  5. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    So the women were assaulted and the guards responded by punishing them.

     
  6. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

    Entire town’s police department leaves after the hiring of a Black City Manager. Can’t qwhite put my finger on it.
     
  7. Batman

    Batman Well-Known Member

    Dallas, you're up.
    Undercover Dallas cops observed a drug dealer making some deals at a convenience store. They followed him when he left and tried to make a traffic stop and arrest, but he gave them the slip. About an hour later he returned to the convenience store, and uniformed cops moved in to make an arrest inside the store. The suspect, Kyle Dail, resisted and eventually pulled a gun on the cops during a struggle, and then the cops shot him. Dail died later on at the hospital.

    Videos Show Man Fatally Shot by Dallas Officer During Arrest – NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth

    Here's the Dallas PD explainer video, with two bodycam angles and store surveillance footage. The bodycam footage starts at the 4:00 mark. The fatal sequence on the surveillance camera starts at 6:00.



    A few things with this one:
    1) When the cops move in, Dail is standing in a corner with his back to them. The cops never identify themselves as police. The first words you on the video hear are, "Don't fucking move," as they're trying to pull Dail's arms behind his back and cuff him. It could be reasonably argued Dail never knew they were police, and that he thought he was being mugged or attacked and he pulled his gun in self-defense.

    2) Dail appears to be a pretty big guy. Three cops were trying to subdue him. Two were still wrestling with Dail when the third fired the shots after Dail pulled the gun. I have no idea how he didn't hit the other officers when he fired, since they were tangled up with Dail in a mass of humanity in a very tight corner of the store. From the body cam footage, the shooter pulls his taser first and then quickly drops or holsters it and switches to his pistol before ripping off three shots. Even though it's close range, it doesn't appear that he has a clear shot on Dail. Discharging a weapon in a store like that also seems like a bad idea, even if the background was a wall and some soda machines.

    3) Dail clearly pulls a gun ...

    4) ... however, he tosses it away just before he is shot. He has it in his right hand and tries to move it to his left. It's hard to say if he was trying to switch hands to give himself a better opportunity to shoot and lost control of it, or he was actually throwing it away to surrender. It leaves his hand with some velocity, which implies he was trying to throw it away, but one of the cops could have hit his arm to send it flying.
    There is about a 3-second span from when he pulls the gun (and one of the cops yells "GUN!"), the gun is tossed, and the police fire the shots. It's a rapid sequence, but it's not quite — pardon the pun — a bang-bang play.

    5) They named the officers, which seems unusual in these cases.

    So there are a lot of elements in play here. The cops might have had legal justification to shoot Dail since he did pull a gun. Hard to say if they should be prosecuted, but if there are some sort of charges it wouldn't upset me because they made a lot of obvious mistakes that led up to that point.
    They literally had Dail cornered, outnumbered him 3-1, and never identified themselves. They not only allowed this to escalate out of control but played an active part in making it happen. They put his life, their lives, and eventually the lives of innocent bystanders at risk with their sloppy work. You have to think if they boxed Dail into that corner and ID'd themselves, rather than accosting him blindly from behind, that this would have had a much better outcome. At the very least, the cops involved should be fired and sanctioned.
    This video could easily be used in training for how to turn a fairly simple arrest into something awful.
     
  8. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Stupid games, stupid prizes, etc.
     
  9. Killick

    Killick Well-Known Member

  10. lakefront

    lakefront Well-Known Member

    Just like their boy trump, don't have a real investigation, just say you are going to do it.
    “They were going to arrest an individual who was running for the town board on these nine-month-old allegations that they already knew were not going to be filed as a criminal charge,” McMillin said.
     
  11. Brooklyn Bridge

    Brooklyn Bridge Well-Known Member

  12. Jake from State Farm

    Jake from State Farm Well-Known Member

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