UVA and the alleged frat rape - Rolling Stone backpedals

[MisterCreosote]

There's no good reason to err that far when there's plenty of information available gauging the problem with some accuracy.

There's good reason to err that far considering, at best, 60 percent of rapes are unreported.

 

[MisterCreosote]

Isn't one too many?

Probably, but they at least have the recourse of a legal system often stacked in their favor, which is much more than a potential rape victim has.

 

[PW2]

There's good reason to err that far considering, at best, 60 percent of rapes are unreported.

That, of course, would be included in the decisions on how many resources to allocate to campus rape prevention. I'm not suggesting that schools proceed as if the only rapes that have occurred are reported rapes.

 

[cranberry]

Maybe if we overstate by some slim margin.

But killing an ant with a sledge hammer? No. There's no good reason to err that far when there's plenty of information available gauging the problem with some accuracy.

I'm not sure you're giving due weight to the severity of the problem if you really think what's going on now can be likened to "killing an ant with a sledgehammer."

 

[LongTimeListener]

I don't think people have read up on exactly what's going on with these adjudication panels -- who sits on them, what their training is, what they're tasked with investigating and how they go about doing that.

It's a farce. It's a complete abomination.

 

[PW2]

I'm not sure you're giving due weight to the severity of the problem if you really think what's going on now can be likened to "killing an ant with a sledgehammer."

I'm not talking about what's going on now. I'm talking about the hypothetical of devoting resources to the problem as if 1 in 5 women are raped at college.

 

[cranberry]

The thing is that I can agree that the adjudication processes on many campuses if forked up without minimizing the problem of campus rape and sexual assault. I also know which problem concerns me more.

 

[Songbird]

Erdley has journalists talking rape on college campuses. Which means she accomplished ... something.

 

[cranberry]

I'm not talking about what's going on now. I'm talking about the hypothetical of devoting resources to the problem as if 1 in 5 women are raped at college.

So your real worry here is the potential inefficiency of throwing too many resources at the problem?

 

[LongTimeListener]

The thing is that I can agree that the adjudication processes on many campuses if forked up without minimizing the problem of campus rape and sexual assault. I also know which problem concerns me more.

And I feel like I can understand that rape is a big problem, particularly among young people, without being lied to about how big the problem is or whether it's particularly grotesque at colleges. (It isn't.)

 

[MisterCreosote]

Some people on this thread remind me of Bill O'Reilly talking about white privilege:

'Talking Points' does not, does not believe in white privilege. However, there is no question that African-Americans have a much harder time succeeding in our society than whites do."

 

[PW2]

So your real worry here is the potential inefficiency of throwing too many resources at the problem?

Yes. Because it means that less resources will get thrown at another problem that needs it.