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Whatever Happened to Shame?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by DanOregon, Jan 7, 2021.

  1. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    I posted that on a thread yesterday, but I kind of wanted to expand on it and think it's a worthy thread topic. I'm sure we won't get through page 1 without the GOT clip (NSFW btw) - but seriously, shame needs to make a comeback.
    I won't name names because I'm sure we all have people in mind when we think of this topic. Bad behavior or other things that in the past would be enough to force a person into hiding, rehab or both and eventually lead to genuine public repentence are now used as rocket fuel for fundraising, celebrity and "brand identity."
    We celebrate bad behavior, we reward it, we honor it. And now we're supposed to be shocked when such bad behavior continues to occur? Hell, we even have people portraying "cancel culture" as a bad thing. Like these people shouldn't face any repercussions from bad behavior?
     
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  2. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    It died when instead of Bobby/Cindy being reprimanded when the teacher raised an issue, the parent said it was the teacher's fault. No one takes responsibility for anything nowadays, so therefore everyone becomes self-absorbed and ignores everyone else.
     
  3. goalmouth

    goalmouth Well-Known Member

    It's not the one thing. It's the dismal tide.

    I think once you quit hearing "sir" and "ma'am," the rest is soon to foller.
     
  4. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

  5. Sea Bass

    Sea Bass Well-Known Member

  6. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Lack of, is Trump's superpower.
    I think it's an important question near the heart of what's going on here. I really don't know.
    A lot of this is the values one's handed through childhood. Not to lie, not to break stuff you don't own, so on.
     
  7. Hermes

    Hermes Well-Known Member

    We overdid shame for millenniums and then overcorrected.
     
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  8. garrow

    garrow Well-Known Member

    When you hate so many people, you don't care what they think.
     
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  9. fossywriter8

    fossywriter8 Well-Known Member

    Baby, look at me
    And tell me what do you see?
    You ain't seen the best of me yet
    Give me time, I'll make you forget
    The rest

    I've got more in me,
    And you can set it free
    I can catch the moon in my hand
    Don't you know who I am?
    Remember my name

    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    I'm gonna learn how to fly high
    I feel it coming together
    People will see me and cry

    SHAME
    I'm gonna make it to heaven
    Light up the sky like a flame
    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    Baby, remember my name

    Remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember

    Baby, hold me tight,
    'Cause you can make it right
    You can shoot me straight to the top
    Give me love and take all I got
    To give

    Baby, I'll be tough,
    Too much is not enough,
    No
    I can ride your heart 'til it breaks
    Ooh, I got what it takes

    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    I'm gonna learn how to fly high
    I feel it coming together
    People will see me and cry

    SHAME
    I'm gonna make it to heaven
    Light up the sky like a flame
    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    Baby, remember my...

    Remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember

    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    I'm gonna learn how to fly high
    I feel it coming together
    People will see me and cry

    SHAME
    I'm gonna make it to heaven
    Light up the sky like a flame
    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    Baby, remember my name

    Remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember, remember

    Remember my name

    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    SHAME
    I'm gonna learn how to fly high
    I feel it coming together
    SHAME
    People will see me and cry

    SHAME
    I'm gonna make it to heaven
    SHAME
    Light up the sky like a flame
    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    SHAME
    Baby, remember my name

    SHAME
    I'm gonna live forever
    SHAME
    I'm gonna learn how to fly high
    I feel it coming together
    SHAME
    People will see me and cry
    SHAME
    I'm gonna make it to heaven
     
  10. DanielSimpsonDay

    DanielSimpsonDay Well-Known Member

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  11. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

  12. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Define "repercussions." And define what people should be ashamed for. Just terrible, riotous behavior in support of Trump? Riotous behavior of anyone? Scoundrels on TV?

    I'm a pain to ask, I know, because I attempt to take seriously the question. Are we talking about whatever happened to protestant-y morality here? Or just creating another thread for folks to vent about how terrible Trump supporters were, are and will be? Because they certainly have showed their asses plenty in the last four years. I just don't need to get in the way of that venting.
     
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