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With gay marriage decided, what will be the next big left-led social change?

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Jun 30, 2015.

  1. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    But they were prejudiced, YF. We can tap dance around those eggshells and pretend all's moving forward. No white guilt, either!
     
  2. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    If we're at the point where we're going to say the Civil Rights Act was just a bunch of programs and partnerships "that are working to provide African-Americans with the skills to land good paying union jobs, in unions that discriminate," I think we're done here.
     
  3. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

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    "You keep my name out of your mouth, YankeeFan."
     
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  4. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    I know you'd like to leave the conversation without admitting defeat, but what I said was:

    By this point I assumed you were referring to the "programs" and "partnerships" Baron mentioned...


    I didn't realize you were talking about the Civil Rights Act.
     
  5. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member


    LOL. At least I didn't flat out call it the Baron Davis Act.
     
  6. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    YF, Davis had zero to do with the labor movement and was in fact an enemy of the labor movement. So, it is odd that you and Quant keep trying to throw a lifelong Republican (who was labor secretary for three GOP presidents), racist and scumbag in the face of organized labor.

    Baron (who owned your ass last night) also was right when he told you the intention of prevailing wage laws was and is to protect local laborers from being undercut on wages by non-local workers. Neither Davis nor Bacon invented prevailing wage laws. In fact, these laws predate the Davis-Bacon Act by about half a century. Believe it or not, people in local communities organized (and voted) to keep their wages from being hired out to outside cheaper workers.

    While I find it entirely plausible that, in 1931, Bacon and Davis were motivated by racist instincts, let me again remind you that they are your party's racists. But you're right that there were plenty of racists in 1931, especially when you apply modern sensibilities to them.

    To the extent you feel like there are discriminatory membership policies at any union here in 2015 (and isn't this a little like me finding a company -- any company! -- that isn't as diverse as I'd like it to be?), please provide some examples of the lawsuits, the complaints or even the specific policies that demonstrate discrimination. There must be examples of people who want to get into these unions and being treated unfairly, no??

    If you're suggesting that diversification is a bigger issue within labor unions than in corporate America, you're obviously kidding yourselves.
     
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  7. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    That is not what I said.
     
  8. Mr. Sunshine

    Mr. Sunshine Well-Known Member

    #dispatchesfromWhiteville
     
  9. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I referred to the 17 national laws contained in a link I posted earlier. I'm not responsible for your assumption.

    So, since the Civil Rights Act didn't explicitly target building trade unions, it is a failure?
     
  10. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    #classwarfare

    Please don't resent successful people. It's unbecoming for a young Republican like yourself.
     
  11. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    Cran, you're forgetting the whole switchy-changy thing. Cats became dogs. Dogs became cats. What were Southern Dems back then would now be Republicans today. And, what were Northeast Republicans would be Dems today.

    It's fucking hilarious that Republicans are supposed to own the racist Southern Democrats of the past, but you don't want to claim the Northeast Republicans as yours.

    That's a nice trick.
     
  12. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Uh, no. Republicans have forever fought organized labor.
     
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