SB Nation pulls Daniel Holtzclaw longform piece

[Alma]

Stout comes out like anyone would expect him to here.

Hall's the one who looks bad to me. He saw earlier drafts. His first day back is the day it publishes. Unless he was awakening from cryogenic sleep that morning, he had the power to postpone the piece, and apparently was still getting "settled."

But, since Hall's a cool dude who tweets funny and shows up on SVP occasionally, we'll see if he escapes without a mark. My sense is yes. But he's the big boss there. He's Stout's boss.

 

[Ace]

I'm with Alma here. I think Stout and Armold did pretty much what you would expect or fear.

Arnold leaned too much on his connections with his view of what the story was.

Stout seemed to want to protect his little fiefdom and keep all the praise.

Most shocking was that no one who could have stopped it did. That's plain bad management.

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

Maybe these sorts should spend less time clowning on Twitter and more time doing their jobs.

 

[Big Circus]

Stout comes out like anyone would expect him to here.

Hall's the one who looks bad to me. He saw earlier drafts. His first day back is the day it publishes. Unless he was awakening from cryogenic sleep that morning, he had the power to postpone the piece, and apparently was still getting "settled."

But, since Hall's a cool dude who tweets funny and shows up on SVP occasionally, we'll see if he escapes without a mark. My sense is yes. But he's the big boss there. He's Stout's boss.

I had the same thought, and I'm a huge Hall fan.

 

[JackReacher]

Agree with Alma. Not a good look for Hall either. Was he vacationing in a spot without email access? But yeah. He's the cool guy who people think is neat on Twitter. We'll see if anything happens to him. I'd bet against it.

 

[typefitter]

Motives are often ill-conceived and the result of momentary weakness or selfishness, although I can imagine Bergeron's perspective being "I'll say what I want when I'm the only one who tried to stop it." She looks like the heroic whistleblower.

Your sense of loyalty and workplace prudence is perhaps far more developed than many.

Most Internet journalists are jackals in search of acknowledgement for their perspective.

I'm not talking about Elena, who's on the record and named. I'm talking about the unnamed, in-shop sources. I think one of whom is fairly obvious.

 

[Alma]

I'm not talking about Elena, who's on the record and named. I'm talking about the unnamed, in-shop sources. I think one of whom is fairly obvious.

Agreed.

I don't particularly begrudge Elena her quotes. It does look a little bit like a whistleblower's lament, though.

 

[Alma]

On the Deadspin piece overall:

It got a little think-piecy at the end. I'd save that for another standalone post, after all is said and done.

 

[Alma]

Maybe these sorts should spend less time clowning on Twitter and more time doing their jobs.

There isn't any question of that, but, I'm telling ya: It's hurt all of journalism. Hall's hardly alone there. And if Hall wasn't the Twitter figure he is, I'm guessing he or SB Nation wouldn't enjoy the profile it has.

There are a few other writers whose work I like and whose Twitter persona I hate so completely I'm disinclined to read their work. Some people need to get the heck off of there.

 

[Moderator1]

Someone in that Deadspin piece was mentioned as "traveling" for TWO days. Where was he going, the moon? Where can you go that you can't be reached by phone or email or something over a two-day period? Something like this, shouldn't he be reached?

Or am I reaching?

 

[JackReacher]

Exactly.

 

[Songbird]

<looks at phone ... recognizes number ... meh, I'll call back>