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Louis CK

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Elliotte Friedman, Nov 9, 2017.

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  1. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    But then I think about all those women - and there were almost certainly more than five - watching him capitalize, and my mood shifts on it. This stuff is hard. Who is redeemable? Who isn’t? Ben Affleck and H.W.? My instinct is an apology suffices for being a grab ass. But I’m not a woman. One whole point of thise exercise is to establish once and for all that grab-assing and dick-flashing isn’t shits and giggles. It’s assaultive.

    Who am I, 40-year-old white dude, to decide that penance has been earned?

    Hell, Ray Rice never again set foot on an NFL field. Meanwhile, the Cowboys are fighting like hell for Zeke Elliott, and that shit was on tape.

    It’s all very hard to sort through.
     
  2. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    I tell myself, “Times were different.”

    And then I remember that’s how people rationalize slavery.
     
  3. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Rice was near the end of his career, anyway. It sure seemed like teams weren't interested in taking the risk for a relatively limited reward.

    Elliott's primary offense wasn't on tape, though I get what you are saying there.
     
  4. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    But what he did was sexual assault, right? On tape.
     
  5. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Good question. If I remember correctly, he pulled her top down to expose her breasts, but didn't grab her. I can see how that could be assault rather than just harassment. Defining some of these things does get tricky.

    Thing is, the NFL didn't even suspend him for that.
     
  6. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Mel Gibson is back. Anyone can come back.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    Brett Favre faced essentially zero consequences for the Jenn Sterger incident other than public ridicule. Wonder how that would play out now?
     
  8. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Let’s ask the espn folks who supposedly sexually harassed her during job interviews.
     
  9. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    One thing that seems clear is that the burden of proof has shifted from the accuser to the perpetrator. At least as far as public opinion goes.
     
  10. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    As a general rule, yes. Depends who the accuser and perpetrator are, of course, and who is evaluating. Alabama Republicans would be apt to disagree with you this week.
     
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  11. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    So, I guess I'm wondering, does this mean that non-victims who falsely accuse will be more easily forgotten now? Is the standard, "Well, I'd rather have too many accusations than not enough?"
     
  12. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Gawker would be less likely to slut shame Jenn, perhaps, having found moral clarity in bankruptcy.
     
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