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MLB 2018 regular season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Mar 28, 2018.

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  1. MTM

    MTM Well-Known Member

    Twitter is all that’s keeping me sane as the Dodgers continue to implode


     
  2. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    True. Paxton is good, but he's not Randy Johnson. And he's on the DL. King Felix right now also isn't as good 1995 Tim Beclher
    as ridiculous as that sounds.
     
  3. John B. Foster

    John B. Foster Well-Known Member

  4. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    That’s not at all what people think when they look xFIP or SIERA.
     
  5. Chef2

    Chef2 Well-Known Member

    Urena got saved by getting dumped.
    He might wear one in the spine if hes still in there.
     
  6. Chef2

    Chef2 Well-Known Member

    Last time I saw something that obvious was the whole Lackey v Kinsler mess.
    Lackey did last 2 pitches though.
     
  7. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    That’s literally the definition of xFIP — how good a pitcher would be if he gave up a different number of home runs than he gives up.
     
  8. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Why is that? Because home runs are considered to be random?
     
  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    Can you put a player in waivers if he has a no trade clause? The new team takes his contract. Strasburg
     
  10. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Yeah, and subject to fluctuation. See, from 2009 through 2016, Kershaw’s HR/FB% was around 5.0. But if it was around 10.0, he wouldn’t have been as good.

    Cool stat.
     
  11. 2muchcoffeeman

    2muchcoffeeman Well-Known Member

  12. bigpern23

    bigpern23 Well-Known Member

    That’s an intentionally obtuse way to look at the stat and it’s still not what people say or think when they use it. I’m not going to bother parsing it because I know you have your mind is made up about it’s usefulness, or lack thereof.

    And, not for anything, but you’re complaining that it relies on assuming a different number of home runs, yet you are comparing him to Scherzer assuming his numbers would be the same “if he had enough innings to qualify.”

    Do yourself a favor and don’t compare Rodriguez to Scherzer anymore. The fact that he doesn’t have enough innings to qualify isn’t a side note in the comparison, it completely invalidates it.

    Look at what Scherzer did compared to Rodriguez in his first 80IP this season:
    Scherzer: 80, 15 er (1.68 ERA), 120k, 19bb, 6hr
    Rodriguez: 80, 20 er (2.25), 65k, 19bb, 4 hr

    Was there any reason to think at the time that Scherzer would allow more than double the amount over earned runs over his next 80 innings? Yes, there was. His FIP and SIERA did not support that he’d continue pitching to a 1.68 ERA.

    The bottom line is that when you look at the total picture presented by Rodriguez’s stats, there’s good reason to believe regression is coming. Believe it or don’t, but there is a reason MLB front offices are using these stats.
     
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