2,880 examples of why raising a daughter is not easy

After looking at the first 90 pages I think it is more like 2,112 since there are some repeats.

 

Fixed

 

Man, you gotta be suffering from carpal tunnel by now.

 

I would say that roughly 10 percent of the thread titles here are "indicative" of the subject matter within. It's kind of part of our charm. Frankly, "Here are some pictures to jack off to" wasn't exactly getting across what I wanted to say.

I don't even know what this means. As this year's Member of the Year Awards proved, I'm not even the most popular poster named Double Down on this site.

I guess to address what your point seems to be, frankly, it's none of my business who kills kittens while looking at these pictures. If someone does, whatever. Perhaps it means they'll be less vitrol on the political threads if they do.

Do men, as we get older and become fathers, struggle with the fact that it's human nature to still find females attractive, even if they're the same age as our teenage daughters? Um, yes. Alan Ball made an entire movie about it called American Beauty. Admitting that it's fucked up doesn't make it less true.

For the reasons I just stated above. I'm not yet 30 years old. I don't have a daughter, but I do have a sister. I feel like these girls are both hot, AND I'd feel uncomfortable if one of them was my sister or daughter. It's sort of the paradox every straight guy gets caught up in. Am I not allowed to be shocked at their behavior, and at the same time, find them attractive? I admit to feeling guilty about it. I'm not sure what you're asking. As you know, I'm a pretty liberal guy. But I'm also a guy.

I am at a loss to summarize exactly how I feel about the pictures. That's my point. They're exploitive, sad, and a ridiculous plea for attention. And I still think a lot of the girls a really fricken hot. Every man to ever walk upright and use tools has had a tug-of-war with his brain and his d--- at some point. That's what made the Seinfeld episode so funny.

I guess I would tell my daughter, don't dress like a skank and post pictures of yourself dressed like a skank on the Internet, but on the other hand, it's your life, you have to make mistakes and learn from them, and I'm going to give you the best advice possible and hope for the best. Lastly, have as much sex as you like, but always make a guy wear a condom. And this is the last time I ever want to think about you having sex again until you tell me I'm going to be a grandfather, and even then I'll think about it only in a tangential way.


So here is my question for you: Where does feminism end, and exploitation begin? You've described yourself as a feminist, and that's awesome. My wife, who is better at her job than I am at mine, makes more money than I do, and who is far smarter than me, is one too. Women's studies major in college. I think it's awesome. But where is the line? If these girls are taking these pictures themselves (not the case in every instance, but clearly the case in most, and you'll just have to trust me on this since you're "grossed out" by the thread title and don't want to look) and posting them on their own personal Facebook pages, is that feminism? Are they doing it to express their own freedom to do whatever the heck the want, to be as slutty and dirty as guys have been for 500 years, or are they simply doing it to impress guys and vie for their attention and affection? I think it's too simplistic to say "they have low self esteem and want attention." I think that's a therapy buzz word, like closure. A lot of it is just kids having fun, pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable because that's what you do when you're young and in college.

I'm seriously interested in your thoughts.

 

Me, too.

 

Just finished a delightful conversation with the Princess, who turned 15 this week. After earlier inhaling my tongue in laughter after opening this thread, I came up with a "teaching moment".

Being wise in the way of marriage, I ran it by the wife first and got approval.

I then printed off one of the least objectional pictures from the gallery along with a heavily edited page from this discussion.

"Hey, sweetie," I yelled up the stairs. 'You got a minute?"

"Only if I'm not in trouble," she replied.

"You're not. Just another of Dad's consequences lectures."

(Uninteligible muttering as she descends the stairs)

"Look at this, sweetie. Now read this."

"OH MAN … This sucks big" (Don't use suck, comes offstage from mom in the dining room)

"Does it suck as big (Don't you use it either, Buster) as the picture of your father from '69 at the Stones Concert your brothers passed around."

"You know about that!?" she said turning red.

"Yep, and I'm soooooo proud."

"I get the message," she says and retreats back upstairs.

So, thanks guys. Should she ever get drunk and terminally stupid, she can't say she wasn't warned.

 

SportsJournalists.com. Where we help warn the daughters of sports writers about the consequences of stupid, drunken college behavior.

And to think, they had the gall to try to shut this place down.

 

DD, The feminist issues that have always been important to me are things like equal pay for the same job and equal opportunity in the workplace.

I never bought into 'railing against exploitation' -- maybe because I was too busy enjoying my short skirts -- Most women enjoy being sexy.

Yep - I agree it's too simplistic to say these girls have low self esteem and want attention.

For one thing, I crave attention myself sometimes and don't particularly have low self-esteem. Or hadn't you all noticed?

I think back to some of the things I've done... nothing like this... but usually under the influence of alcohol... and the truth is that I have (had?) a little bit of a wild streak. And these girls probably have a lot of a wild streak. People have that-- it's human nature... combine it with the "high" that comes from male attention... and you get this. I'm sure the girls regret it now, or will regret it one day.

So that might explain their actions..... but it doesn't solve your dilemma, which is: Sluttiness-- can't live with it and can't live without it.

 

I absolutely can live with it.

They're all somebody's daughters...

 

;D Well I guess we know who's winning the battle in your Seinfeldian chess game.

 

Oh, there was no chess. It was checkers, and that shit was over in, like, eight moves.

King me, drunken sorostitutes...

 

Actually, I've understood that part of feminism is not having to apologize for your expressions of sexuality. So Blinky is breaking down barriers here. Good on him/her.