2008 sj.com college football poll -- (1/9) Final Poll, Page 118

Tom Petty · Oct 13, 2008

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penn state v. SC. who do you bet the farm on?

slappy4428 · Oct 13, 2008

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joe_schmoe said:

mississippi state gets a vote? really? Okay, who did their poll drunk?

Oh and also, the () is missing next to Texas.
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Actually. I forgot to add the first place votes in... give me a moment.. .it's a busy monday as usual...

JackReacher · Oct 13, 2008

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slappy4428 said:

joe_schmoe said:

mississippi state gets a vote? really? Okay, who did their poll drunk?

Oh and also, the () is missing next to Texas.
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Actually. I forgot to add the first place votes in... give me a moment.. .it's a busy monday as usual...
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Didn't forget Bama's.

slappy4428 · Oct 13, 2008

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Actually, I did. That was last week's total, now fixed. Thanks for helping out.

JackReacher · Oct 13, 2008

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slappy4428 said:

Actually, I did. That was last week's total, now fixed. Thanks for helping out.
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You're very welcome.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Jan 1, 2015

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JackReacher said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

JackReacher said:

Piotr Rasputin said:

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Florida
5. Penn State
6. Oklahoma
7. Texas Tech
8. Georgia
9. Ohio State
10. BYU

Penn State maybe should be higher, but until they run through an entire season in this manner, I've seen this start before.
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What do Penn State teams of the past have to do with this year's team and its ranking?
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Maybe the fact that they have consistently choked their ass off since joining the Big 10 in 1993.
Since joining they have won the conference outright once, in 1994.
They have lost every game to Michigan during the Lloyd Carr era and can not, and have, not won in Columbus - site of this year's game - since 1978.
And don't forget the fact PSU has managed a Big Ten hiccup every year - save 1994 (genuflect) - since. The Lions somehow, someway find a way to lose to Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan St. or somebody along the line.
I'm having a hard time ranking the Lions as high as they are.. I just don't believe it yet.
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So go ahead and penalize this year's team before they actually lose based on the fact that they've always lost certain games in the past? Lovely.

Too many people want to make the weekly polls a lifetime achievement thing.

No wonder so many don't take the polls seriously anymore.
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So what do you base it on, cause it sure as hell ain't strength of schedule?
PSU creamed Oregon St. (2-3), Illinois (3-3) and Wisconsin (3-2), neither of which has proven to be a powerhouse win.
Someone mentioned they throttled everyone they have played. Yup, Old Purdue (2-4) sure took it on the chin ... 20-6? Puh-leaze.
Coastal Carolina, Cuse and Temple? Powers...
Oh, yeah there is no doubt PSU should be a top 3 team. No doubt (blue font).
PSU is ranked is as high as it is because of past performance, not in spite of it. Ball State is unbeaten and it ain't in the top 15. They have played foes every bit as tough as PSU.
Have the Lions played a team with a winning record?
So please justify for me how they deserve to be a Top 3 team.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Oct 13, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- WEEK 7 10/13, Pg. 61

Now, I've convinced myself... Slap, is it too late to change my PSU vote?

JackReacher · Jan 1, 2015

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- WEEK 7 10/13, Pg. 61

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

JackReacher said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

JackReacher said:

Piotr Rasputin said:

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Florida
5. Penn State
6. Oklahoma
7. Texas Tech
8. Georgia
9. Ohio State
10. BYU

Penn State maybe should be higher, but until they run through an entire season in this manner, I've seen this start before.
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What do Penn State teams of the past have to do with this year's team and its ranking?
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Maybe the fact that they have consistently choked their ass off since joining the Big 10 in 1993.
Since joining they have won the conference outright once, in 1994.
They have lost every game to Michigan during the Lloyd Carr era and can not, and have, not won in Columbus - site of this year's game - since 1978.
And don't forget the fact PSU has managed a Big Ten hiccup every year - save 1994 (genuflect) - since. The Lions somehow, someway find a way to lose to Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan St. or somebody along the line.
I'm having a hard time ranking the Lions as high as they are.. I just don't believe it yet.
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So go ahead and penalize this year's team before they actually lose based on the fact that they've always lost certain games in the past? Lovely.

Too many people want to make the weekly polls a lifetime achievement thing.

No wonder so many don't take the polls seriously anymore.
Click to expand...

So what do you base it on, cause it sure as hell ain't strength of schedule?
PSU creamed Oregon St. (2-3), Illinois (3-3) and Wisconsin (3-2), neither of which has proven to be a powerhouse win.
Someone mentioned they throttled everyone they have plated. Yup, Old Purdue (2-4) sure took it on the chin ... 20-6? Puh-leaze.
Coastal Carolina, Cuse and Temple? Powers...
Oh, yeah there is no doubt PSU should be a top 3 team. No doubt (blue font).
PSU is ranked is as high as it is because of past performance, not in spite of it. Ball State is unbeaten and it ain't in the top 15. They have played foes every bit as tough as PSU.
Have the Lions played a team with a winning record?
So please justify for me how they deserve to be a Top 3 team.
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I didn't say they deserved to be a Top 3 team. Just said it's crazy to base your ranking of a certain team in a certain week based on what they did last year, or three years ago, or 20 years ago.

joe_schmoe · Oct 13, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- WEEK 7 10/13, Pg. 61

slappy4428 said:

joe_schmoe said:

mississippi state gets a vote? really? Okay, who did their poll drunk?

Oh and also, the () is missing next to Texas.
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Actually. I forgot to add the first place votes in... give me a moment.. .it's a busy monday as usual...
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is cool.

I actually have a rare monday off. i am beside myself.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Jan 1, 2015

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JackReacher said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

JackReacher said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

JackReacher said:

Piotr Rasputin said:

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Florida
5. Penn State
6. Oklahoma
7. Texas Tech
8. Georgia
9. Ohio State
10. BYU

Penn State maybe should be higher, but until they run through an entire season in this manner, I've seen this start before.
Click to expand...

What do Penn State teams of the past have to do with this year's team and its ranking?
Click to expand...

Maybe the fact that they have consistently choked their ass off since joining the Big 10 in 1993.
Since joining they have won the conference outright once, in 1994.
They have lost every game to Michigan during the Lloyd Carr era and can not, and have, not won in Columbus - site of this year's game - since 1978.
And don't forget the fact PSU has managed a Big Ten hiccup every year - save 1994 (genuflect) - since. The Lions somehow, someway find a way to lose to Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan St. or somebody along the line.
I'm having a hard time ranking the Lions as high as they are.. I just don't believe it yet.
Click to expand...

So go ahead and penalize this year's team before they actually lose based on the fact that they've always lost certain games in the past? Lovely.

Too many people want to make the weekly polls a lifetime achievement thing.

No wonder so many don't take the polls seriously anymore.
Click to expand...

So what do you base it on, cause it sure as hell ain't strength of schedule?
PSU creamed Oregon St. (2-3), Illinois (3-3) and Wisconsin (3-2), neither of which has proven to be a powerhouse win.
Someone mentioned they throttled everyone they have plated. Yup, Old Purdue (2-4) sure took it on the chin ... 20-6? Puh-leaze.
Coastal Carolina, Cuse and Temple? Powers...
Oh, yeah there is no doubt PSU should be a top 3 team. No doubt (blue font).
PSU is ranked is as high as it is because of past performance, not in spite of it. Ball State is unbeaten and it ain't in the top 15. They have played foes every bit as tough as PSU.
Have the Lions played a team with a winning record?
So please justify for me how they deserve to be a Top 3 team.
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I didn't say they deserved to be a Top 3 team. Just said it's crazy to base your ranking of a certain team in a certain week based on what they did last year, or three years ago, or 20 years ago.
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Then how would you do a preseason poll?

BTW: I based my PSU ranking on the post outling their 2008 foes... The post highlighting their stellar track record of failure in the Big Ten, especially Columbus is just added fodder.

JackReacher · Jan 1, 2015

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- WEEK 7 10/13, Pg. 61

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

JackReacher said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

JackReacher said:

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:

JackReacher said:

Piotr Rasputin said:

1. Texas
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Florida
5. Penn State
6. Oklahoma
7. Texas Tech
8. Georgia
9. Ohio State
10. BYU

Penn State maybe should be higher, but until they run through an entire season in this manner, I've seen this start before.
Click to expand...

What do Penn State teams of the past have to do with this year's team and its ranking?
Click to expand...

Maybe the fact that they have consistently choked their ass off since joining the Big 10 in 1993.
Since joining they have won the conference outright once, in 1994.
They have lost every game to Michigan during the Lloyd Carr era and can not, and have, not won in Columbus - site of this year's game - since 1978.
And don't forget the fact PSU has managed a Big Ten hiccup every year - save 1994 (genuflect) - since. The Lions somehow, someway find a way to lose to Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan St. or somebody along the line.
I'm having a hard time ranking the Lions as high as they are.. I just don't believe it yet.
Click to expand...

So go ahead and penalize this year's team before they actually lose based on the fact that they've always lost certain games in the past? Lovely.

Too many people want to make the weekly polls a lifetime achievement thing.

No wonder so many don't take the polls seriously anymore.
Click to expand...

So what do you base it on, cause it sure as hell ain't strength of schedule?
PSU creamed Oregon St. (2-3), Illinois (3-3) and Wisconsin (3-2), neither of which has proven to be a powerhouse win.
Someone mentioned they throttled everyone they have plated. Yup, Old Purdue (2-4) sure took it on the chin ... 20-6? Puh-leaze.
Coastal Carolina, Cuse and Temple? Powers...
Oh, yeah there is no doubt PSU should be a top 3 team. No doubt (blue font).
PSU is ranked is as high as it is because of past performance, not in spite of it. Ball State is unbeaten and it ain't in the top 15. They have played foes every bit as tough as PSU.
Have the Lions played a team with a winning record?
So please justify for me how they deserve to be a Top 3 team.
Click to expand...

I didn't say they deserved to be a Top 3 team. Just said it's crazy to base your ranking of a certain team in a certain week based on what they did last year, or three years ago, or 20 years ago.
Click to expand...

Then how would you do a preseason poll?

BTW: I based my PSU ranking on the post outling their 2008 foes... The post highlighting their stellar track record of failure in the Big Ten, especially Columbus is just added fodder.
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I wouldn't do a preseason poll. I'd wait until the end of September before ranking the teams.

Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! · Oct 13, 2008

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slappy4428 said:

Fraud, or no fraud?

Oct. 13, 2008

By SLAPPY 4428
Poll E-o-e-o

That’s right fans, it’s time once again to play the weekly game America’s talking about every day – Fraud, or No Fraud.

In an effort to save time and space, we’ll skip much of the potential candidate list, like the old fart in State College, Pa., whose teams eventually take a hairy dump; or the midget in Clemson, S.C., who got the ziggy this morning in favor of a “coach-to-be-named-later,” one surely capable of leading the Tigers out of their 27-year streak of underachievement like Moses leading the 12 tribes out of the desert.

Our first contestant is a professorial fellow from the banks of the Olentangy River in suburban Dublin, Ohio, please welcome Ohio State and its coach Jim Tressel. Jim, tell us why your team shouldn’t be considered a fraud.

“Well, we played the really tough teams in Ohio well and beat one of the top two programs in Alabama. Sure we hit a speed bump against USC, but we feel that our Big Ten schedule stacks up well. We gave Minnesota it’s only loss, you know. And at least I’m not considered a genius in the spread offense with my offense ranked 109.”

True, Jim. Absolutely true. But beating Minnesota, Purdue and Wisconsin is not high praise. Still, your track record is consistent and your team does win enough to be considered. Just because we put you in games you aren’t prepared for doesn’t mean you are a fraud.

Next up, from the Cheese State and its capital city of Madis… ah hell. Save time. Fraud. And you, in the wings – Virginia Tech, Tennessee, Florida State – you go too. And wheel Fat Boy Charlie out too.

Our next contestant, the triplets from the south – please welcome Mark, Les and Urban. You know, you guys looked really bad when you lost. Urbie, you lost to a team that you had no business losing to – hold your head up and look me in the eye – but you did spank Les pretty good. In fact, I laughed when I saw it… no offense.

And Mark? There’s losing to a team you could lose to and there’s getting slapped. Sorry, but even if you win out, fraud. This Stafford guy? He’ll make it to the next level. America needs clipboard holders too.

Speaking of which… as I look down, Mr. Pinkel. At home? At least Mr. Stoops had the disadvantage of a neutral site in the opponent’s state. But you sir… directly on poit, you are no Brain.

Mr. Beamer? You again? If you just pay for the lifetime membership, we don’t have to go through this every year. Please, hold the door for Coach Willingham and Coach Neuheisel.

Some contestants still have yet to lose a round, yet you’re wondering why you are here on this stage. Mr. Leach. After you get a haircut (you’re an adult, lose the mop), you can tell us why you shouldn’t be here after fiddle-farting around with Nebraska?

Mr. Petersen, I am proud to say that after all these years, your team is not a fraud. It’s changed coaches, taken on big and small and won. When you do lose on occasion, we bury you in the polls and you come right back. Congrats, you are legit – blue turf and all.

Our final contestant has all the potential to be a fraud’s fraud. A few years ago, he was a sympathetic figure when a meddlesome board of trustee tried to hire someone else during the season, the media found out about it and outrage ended that plan. The next season, he went undefeated and created more sympathy by not going to the BCS title game.

This coach has always tinkered with coordinators – after the season. But last week, this coach fired his offense coordinator in mid-season. Not moved positions. Not tweaked the offense. Dumped him like a bride at the altar who found out the groom slept with the maid of honor.

Never mind his two starting quarterbacks couldn’t hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle. Never mind that he brought in his coordinator for a drastic change only to bail on him, when his other good ol’ boys assistant coaches complained it was t-o-o- h-a-r-d in between bites of their barbecue. Never mind that the offense didn’t improve one bit from the week before. Or the week before that.

Nope, our grand-prize winner isn’t a school with perpetual problems, it’s a coach who gives new meaning to a classless society. Ladies and gentlemen, from Auburn, Alabama, Tommy Tuberville – this fraud’s for you. Your prize? We hope you get what’s coming to you.

SportsJournalists.com COLLEGE FOOTBALL POLL
10/13/2008
RK. TEAM (1st) PTS Last
1. Texas (41) 1214 5
2. Alabama (7) 1162 4
3. Penn State (1) 1130 6
4. USC 985 7
5. Oklahoma 982 1
6. Florida 957 11
7. Texas Tech 915 8
8. BYU 857 9
9. Oklahoma State 845 17
10. Georgia 817 10
11. Missouri 724 2
12. Ohio State 682 12
13. Utah 662 13
14. LSU 648 3
15. Kansas 506 16
16. Boise State 494 15
17. Virginia Tech 375 18
18. Michigan State 317 21
19. North Caroilina 305 23
20. South Florida 236 19
21. Wake Forest 223 22
22. Vanderbilt 172 14
23. Ball State 158 NR
24. Tulsa 126 NR
25. Pittsburgh 102 NR
Also receiving votes: California 90, TCU 65, Minnesota 54, Oregon 36, Georgia Tech 17, Cincinnati 16, Florida State 10, Northwestern 4, South Carolina 3, Mississippi State 1.

The SportsJournalists.com college football poll committee: Slappy4428 (chairman), 2muchcoffeeman, 93devil, Agate Page, Amraeder,Angola, Appgrad05, Azom, Barsuk, Bubbler, Buckweaver, Budcrew08, BYH, Cadet, Della9250, Diabeetus, Dickens Cider, Dixiehack, Dparker85, Elliotte Friedman, GB-Hack, Hammer Pants, Hank Scorpio, Huggy, Hustle, Idaho, Inkywretch, Joe Schmoe, Joel Hammond, jps, KYsportswriter, Madhavok, Mustangj17, OJ1414, Orville Redenbacher, Oz, Perennially Overrated, Piotr Rasputin, Precious Roy, Rufino, Rumpleforeskin, Spnited, Sportschick, Stagger Lee, Starman, Sxysptswrtr, Tom Petty,Trooper Bari, Songbird, Zebracoy, Zeke12.

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Nice work.

Who the hell gave the Lions a No. 1 vote?

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