2008 sj.com college football poll -- (1/9) Final Poll, Page 118

slappy4428 · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

93Devil said:

StaggerLee said:

93Devil said:

Point is though that the Pac 10 is just tough to figure out of conference. I wonder in how many of those games were they getting points?
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Michigan is 44-18 against the Pac-10, which is pretty surprising considering probably 70% of those games were played on the West Coast.

Here's a bit of trivia for you, which conference has the best record against Michigan? I'll give you a hint, it's not the SEC.

P.S. Slappy is not eligible to answer.
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Where did you get the 44-18 number from?

That's a lot of games.
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There's a lot of years to do it in too...
And I have no idea which conference holds a winning record against ... wait. Yes I do.

Songbird · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

slappy4428 said:

Songbird said:

Slappy, do you remember a game circa '84 or '85 when Long Beach State went to the Big House? For someone who lived in Long Beach and knew and respected the whole aura of Bo and Michigan, I couldn't believe it before the season when I read the 49ers would be playing in Ann Arbor; in baseball terms it would be like Modesto going to play at Yankee Stadium to face the '78 Bombers.

It was pretty much a "payoff" game since Long Beach needed the $300,000 or so. I listened on the radio, of course. Early in the game Michigan is driving and has 1st and goal at the 1. I figure the Wolverines would score on the next plow up the gut. Lo and behold, 4 plays later, Long Beach holds them on 4th and goal at the 1. I was so excited.

But, you know, Michigan won 49-0. Did you watch or listen to that game?
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Actually, it was 1987 and it was my first year as the back-up guy on Michigan football for the paper I was at. Yeah, I was there. And for Wazzou the game before and for the Ohio State loss at the end in Earle Bruce's last game.
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So is the "aura" of being in the Big House as special as people make it? Or is it just another overcast, drizzly day in Ann Arbor? Can you compare it to The Horseshoe or Camp Randall or South Bend?

slappy4428 · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

Songbird said:

slappy4428 said:

Songbird said:

Slappy, do you remember a game circa '84 or '85 when Long Beach State went to the Big House? For someone who lived in Long Beach and knew and respected the whole aura of Bo and Michigan, I couldn't believe it before the season when I read the 49ers would be playing in Ann Arbor; in baseball terms it would be like Modesto going to play at Yankee Stadium to face the '78 Bombers.

It was pretty much a "payoff" game since Long Beach needed the $300,000 or so. I listened on the radio, of course. Early in the game Michigan is driving and has 1st and goal at the 1. I figure the Wolverines would score on the next plow up the gut. Lo and behold, 4 plays later, Long Beach holds them on 4th and goal at the 1. I was so excited.

But, you know, Michigan won 49-0. Did you watch or listen to that game?
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Actually, it was 1987 and it was my first year as the back-up guy on Michigan football for the paper I was at. Yeah, I was there. And for Wazzou the game before and for the Ohio State loss at the end in Earle Bruce's last game.
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So is the "aura" of being in the Big House as special as people make it? Or is it just another overcast, drizzly day in Ann Arbor? Can you compare it to The Horseshoe or Camp Randall or South Bend?
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no... The Shoe and Camp Randall -- for the average game -- are much better places to be. More electric and intense. Michigan Stadium is where 110K people go to sit on their hands. However, the fact that there are 110K people there to sit on their hands is cool as hell. And when it rocks, it is intense. Just doesn't happen as often as you think.
Stadium renovations suck; when you would see row and row and row of seats inside and go outside and see a stadium that maybe rose 40 feet above the ground in some spots, it was different.
Fuck you Bill Martin, you greedy corporate clown.

StaggerLee · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

slappy4428 said:

93Devil said:

StaggerLee said:

93Devil said:

Point is though that the Pac 10 is just tough to figure out of conference. I wonder in how many of those games were they getting points?
Click to expand...

Michigan is 44-18 against the Pac-10, which is pretty surprising considering probably 70% of those games were played on the West Coast.

Here's a bit of trivia for you, which conference has the best record against Michigan? I'll give you a hint, it's not the SEC.

P.S. Slappy is not eligible to answer.
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Where did you get the 44-18 number from?

That's a lot of games.
Click to expand...

There's a lot of years to do it in too...
And I have no idea which conference holds a winning record against ... wait. Yes I do.
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The conference I'm talking about doesn't have a winning record against Michigan, but it's closer (a lot closer) than any other conference. I'm speaking strictly of "major" conferences. Has Michigan played any other SoCon teams? If not, then that conference is unbeaten against the Wolverines.

StaggerLee · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

Songbird said:

I'm going to say the Big 8/12.
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Nope, Michigan is 16-6-2 against the Big 12.

StaggerLee · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

93Devil said:

StaggerLee said:

93Devil said:

Point is though that the Pac 10 is just tough to figure out of conference. I wonder in how many of those games were they getting points?
Click to expand...

Michigan is 44-18 against the Pac-10, which is pretty surprising considering probably 70% of those games were played on the West Coast.

Here's a bit of trivia for you, which conference has the best record against Michigan? I'll give you a hint, it's not the SEC.

P.S. Slappy is not eligible to answer.
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Where did you get the 44-18 number from?

That's a lot of games.
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Michigan vs. Pac 10

Arizona 2 0 0 1.000
Arizona State 0 1 0 .000
California 6 2 0 .750
Oregon 3 0 0 1.000
Oregon State 4 0 0 1.000
Southern California 4 4 0 .500
Stanford 6 3 1 .650
UCLA 8 3 0 .727
Washington 7 5 0 .583
Washington State 4 0 0 1.000
Totals 44 18 1 .706

slappy4428 · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

StaggerLee said:

slappy4428 said:

93Devil said:

StaggerLee said:

93Devil said:

Point is though that the Pac 10 is just tough to figure out of conference. I wonder in how many of those games were they getting points?
Click to expand...

Michigan is 44-18 against the Pac-10, which is pretty surprising considering probably 70% of those games were played on the West Coast.

Here's a bit of trivia for you, which conference has the best record against Michigan? I'll give you a hint, it's not the SEC.

P.S. Slappy is not eligible to answer.
Click to expand...

Where did you get the 44-18 number from?

That's a lot of games.
Click to expand...

There's a lot of years to do it in too...
And I have no idea which conference holds a winning record against ... wait. Yes I do.
Click to expand...

The conference I'm talking about doesn't have a winning record against Michigan, but it's closer (a lot closer) than any other conference. I'm speaking strictly of "major" conferences. Has Michigan played any other SoCon teams? If not, then that conference is unbeaten against the Wolverines.
Click to expand...

Keep in mind that the SoCon was an ancestor of the SEC and ACC

The conference was formed on February 25, 1921 in Atlanta, Georgia as fourteen member institutions split from the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association.[1] Southern Conference charter members were Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi A&M (now Mississippi State), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Washington & Lee. In 1922, six more universities - Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, and Vanderbilt joined the conference. Later additions included Sewanee (1923), Virginia Military Institute (1925), Duke (1929), and Wake Forest (1936).

The SoCon is particularly notable for having spawned two other major conferences. In 1933, thirteen schools located south and west of the Appalachians (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Sewanee, Tennessee, Tulane, and Vanderbilt) departed the SoCon to form the Southeastern Conference.[1] In 1953, seven schools (Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, and Wake Forest) withdrew from the SoCon to form the Atlantic Coast Conference.[1]

StaggerLee · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

slappy4428 said:

StaggerLee said:

slappy4428 said:

93Devil said:

StaggerLee said:

93Devil said:

Point is though that the Pac 10 is just tough to figure out of conference. I wonder in how many of those games were they getting points?
Click to expand...

Michigan is 44-18 against the Pac-10, which is pretty surprising considering probably 70% of those games were played on the West Coast.

Here's a bit of trivia for you, which conference has the best record against Michigan? I'll give you a hint, it's not the SEC.

P.S. Slappy is not eligible to answer.
Click to expand...

Where did you get the 44-18 number from?

That's a lot of games.
Click to expand...

There's a lot of years to do it in too...
And I have no idea which conference holds a winning record against ... wait. Yes I do.
Click to expand...

The conference I'm talking about doesn't have a winning record against Michigan, but it's closer (a lot closer) than any other conference. I'm speaking strictly of "major" conferences. Has Michigan played any other SoCon teams? If not, then that conference is unbeaten against the Wolverines.
Click to expand...

Keep in mind that the SoCon was an ancestor of the SEC and ACC

The conference was formed on February 25, 1921 in Atlanta, Georgia as fourteen member institutions split from the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association.[1] Southern Conference charter members were Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi A&M (now Mississippi State), North Carolina, North Carolina State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Washington & Lee. In 1922, six more universities - Florida, LSU, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tulane, and Vanderbilt joined the conference. Later additions included Sewanee (1923), Virginia Military Institute (1925), Duke (1929), and Wake Forest (1936).

The SoCon is particularly notable for having spawned two other major conferences. In 1933, thirteen schools located south and west of the Appalachians (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Sewanee, Tennessee, Tulane, and Vanderbilt) departed the SoCon to form the Southeastern Conference.[1] In 1953, seven schools (Clemson, Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, North Carolina State, South Carolina, and Wake Forest) withdrew from the SoCon to form the Atlantic Coast Conference.[1]
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That's pretty interesting. I knew that the early SEC years had Sewanee, Georgia Tech, but I never knew those two conferences (ACC and SEC) came out of the original SoCon.

To narrow down my previous trivia question, Michigan is 18-3 against the current ACC members and 18-5-1 against the SEC.

The answer is still out there.

Songbird · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

Big East?

StaggerLee · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

Songbird said:

Big East?
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14-6-1 against the Big East.

Since we've pretty much named all the big conferences, I'll reveal the secret.

Michigan is only 29-27-2 (.517) against the Ivy League. The next-closest conference percentage-wise is the Big East at .690.

Songbird · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

I can't believe Michigan has played 58 games against the Ivy League.

StaggerLee · Aug 21, 2008

Re: 2008 SportsJournalists.com college football poll -- PRESEASON, Aug. 18

Songbird said:

I can't believe Michigan has played 58 games against the Ivy League.
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I'd have to look it up, but I'm sure every single one of those games came before the 1950s. Michigan is 6-12 against Cornell. LOL

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