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2008 World Series of Poker

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by CentralIllinoisan, Jun 15, 2008.

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  1. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    Hellmuth has got to be one of the players making more off endorsements than at the tables, right?
     
    Inky_Wretch, Oct 9, 2008
    #121
  2. Birdscribe

    Birdscribe Active Member

    Wouldn't doubt it.

    He's one of the multitudes who gets his entry fees paid by a sponsor.
     
    Birdscribe, Oct 9, 2008
    #122
  3. sporting_guista

    sporting_guista Member

    Yes, that guy was awesome with his J-4 comment.
     
    sporting_guista, Oct 9, 2008
    #123
  4. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Tournament poker is such a bad beat-fest, you've got to figure out a way to make a name for yourself in losing. I give credit to Hellmuth for that. He's like a modern-day Tommy Bolt (that's for you, birdscribe!), a champion more known for his outbursts.
     
    playthrough, Oct 9, 2008
    #124
  5. ATLienCP

    ATLienCP Member

    I am sorry if this has been discussed here before but I am curious what the posters here think about ESPN creating hands for entertainment.

    http://www.improving.org/paulp/poker/tonyd-vs-hellmuth/index.html

    I found the link in this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/37/televised-poker/what-biggest-tv-laydown-93285/
     
    ATLienCP, Oct 19, 2008
    #125
  6. zagoshe

    zagoshe Well-Known Member

    I've often thought that hand with the guy laying down his Jacks against Hellmuth didn't smell right but I haven't seen that guy play enough to really know if it was out of character for him. I guess he could have put Hellmuth on a hand like A-J in which he was drawing almost dead to or K-J which he was drawing dead to but I have a hard time believing he folded J-10 with that board and his chip stack (unless it was like right near the bubble and he was trying to make the money, in that case you see some really tight folds -- like the guy this year that folded Q-Q when Ramdin with A-J pushed him all in)...

    As for faking hands -- as long as they are not fixing the games, I have no problem if they didn't see the hole cards with them filling in the blanks or whatever.
     
    zagoshe, Oct 19, 2008
    #126
  7. maberger

    maberger Member

    2+2 shout out FTW.

    missed this discussion about espn manufacturing action. that's brutal.
     
    maberger, Oct 20, 2008
    #127
  8. playthrough

    playthrough Moderator Staff Member

    Not condoning it, but it's no surprise either. There are so many liberties taken to condense days-long tournaments into one-hour shows. People who only know of NLHE through televised poker (and not just on ESPN) must think it's a non-stop bad-beat festival with wild cash swings, when we know that's only a fraction of the game.
     
    playthrough, Oct 20, 2008
    #128
  9. JakeandElwood

    JakeandElwood Well-Known Member

    IIRC ESPN doesn't do this anymore and apologized for it in the past. But yeah, it's definitely wrong to do.
     
    JakeandElwood, Oct 20, 2008
    #129
  10. Tommy_Dreamer

    Tommy_Dreamer Well-Known Member

    Gems like that are what make Birdscribe an oustanding poster and a helluva damn good writer.
     
    Tommy_Dreamer, Oct 20, 2008
    #130
  11. PeteyPirate

    PeteyPirate Guest

    SPOILER ALERT:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/more/11/11/world-series-poker-winner.ap/index.html
     
    PeteyPirate, Nov 11, 2008
    #131
  12. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

    What's funny is that ESPN rigged this year's final table so most people wouldn't know the winner before it aired tonight. Yet then ESPN itself is broadcasting the winner before tonight's episode.
     
    Inky_Wretch, Nov 11, 2008
    #132
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