2010 Pro Wrestling Thread

I'm surprised more guys haven't gotten legitimately hurt by the Razor's Edge. It's one of those moves that you better be praying that your opponent takes good care of you.

I think Sheamus ought to just keep the bicycle kick. Matt Morgan does a really good job at getting it over too.

 

I've never seen anyone land any way but on his back. Kudos to Hall and Sheamus.

 

Maybe Sheamus can give MVP one of his finishing moves because, right now, MVP might have the worst "finisher" I've ever seen. It's a toss up between that and the "Attitude Adjustment", which when you think about it should be about as painful as a spinebuster but actually ends matches for some unknown reason.

 

The way Hall used to do it, the guy would frequently land on his shoulders and the back of his head. He also used to do a back suplex off the top rope, which also was pretty dangerous.

If you were his opponent, you probably were hoping that Hall was sober on the nights he was working with you.

I've said it before on here, but I hate MVP's finisher. It takes him so long to set it up, and just doesn't look that good.

The Attitude Adjustment/FU is really no more devastating than a body slam, when you really think of it. It takes some suspension of disbelief, which Cena has managed to do. And don't forget, The Rock managed to create a finishing move out of throwing an elbow pad into the crowd, do a little shake of the leg coming off the ropes and dropping an elbow.

 

To be fair though, the Rock never won a match with the PE. Cena has won, at Mania, with that stupid attitude adjustment bullcrap. It's about as realistic as the Great Khali winning with a hand chop or Melina winning with that weird ass inside out faceplant (At least I think it was Melina, IIRC).

 

Glad I'm not alone on the hatred for the Attitude Adjustment. I never understood why that was any worse than a regular slam or suplex. And while it's slightly more believable as a finisher, I swear half the time Cena's opponents tap out from the STFU it's because of boredom. They can't get out, but don't want to lay there for the 10 minutes it'd take for Cena to bust a blood vessel in his brain from his overacting.

This is a good topic, though. What are the most believable and most ridiculous finishers, current and all-time? The ones you look at and say "Holy shit! That hurt!" And the ones you look at and say, "WTF!? THAT put somebody away!?"
I'd say one of the most believable all-time was Brock Lesnar's F5. Especially the way he delivered it, it just looked devastating. The front-face suplex One Man Gang used to deliver was also nasty-looking. Of the current finishers, maybe Sheamus' crucifix powerbomb or the RKO would get my vote. I've always liked the RKO/Diamond Cutter.
As for least believable, the Attitude Adjustment and Playmaker are up there for the current ones. All-time, Hogan's leg drop would be my winner. Like Sgt. Slaughter said on that old A&E special, "My daughter could deliver that leg drop. Hogan just had charisma."

 

Didn't MVP used to do something similar to Sheamus' running kick? IIRC, he'd run across the ring and kick his opponent in the head. Did they decide it was too close to Orton's punt or something?

 

The Rock was in fact using the People's Elbow as a finisher towards the end of his face run before returning as a too-big-for-WWE heel. Not all the time, but he definitely won TV matches with it.

 

I'll second Lesnar's F5 and add Angle's Angle Lock, the RKO, the Evenflow (sp*) DDT from Raven, the Bonzai Drop, Sweet Chin Music, the Codebreaker and Gail Kim's current finisher as ones I look at as most believable.

Obviously Hogan's Leg Drop has to be the worst one ever, though I don't know if you'd count all the crowd pop signature moves (the People's Elbow, the Boom-drop, the Worm, e.t.c) as finishers. If you do, add all of them to this list. If not, let's stick with the Hogan Leg Drop, the Attitude Adjustment, Starship Pain (looks cool but should it really beat someone?), the Benoit head-drop, the Ultimate Warrior's slam, any variation of an elbow drop, the Masterlock and every Sleeperhold ever.

 

I've never seen him win with a PE. I know this because, after the second time I saw him do it, I thought "That move f-n sucks. He better never win with it" and I would keep an eye out for it. I'm not saying he never won with it, but if he did I sure as heck didn't see it. Granted, I tuned in and out of WWF/WWE then so it's quite possible.

 

Re: Winning via the People's Elbow

I guess it all depends on how you define winning matches with a move. Rock had a number of sequences where he would hit the Rock Bottom, then add the Elbow for good measure. So in theory, it was the Rock Bottom that incapacitated the opponent and the People's Elbow was just showboating, even though it was the last move before the pin.

As for best finishers, the Tombstone has all the makings - the name fits the character/gimmick, not to mention the fact that driving a guy head-first into the ground should ruin him. I was a mark for the Macho Man's flying elbow too.

That reminds me of this cool piece of trivia: When Eddie Guerrero beat Brock Lesnar for the belt in 2004 with the frog splash, it was the first time a wrestler won the WWE title with a top-rope move since Macho Man in 1988.

 

I must've been lucky to catch Hall sober a few nights.