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2011-12 Hot Stove Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by bigpern23, Oct 31, 2011.

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  1. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Maybe they could trade Vernon Wells to clear salary room for Pujols. Too bad the only team dumb enough to take on Wells' contract already has him.

    And I don't really care where Pujols goes, as long as it's not the NL East.
     
    Steak Snabler, Dec 6, 2011
    #517
  2. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    If Pujols is looking at $22 million per year, that's not wildly out of DiPoto's budget and they can try to trade for pitching.

    I'm not ordering my Pujols jersey just yet, but I'm glad to hear they're at least in the market.
     
    PCLoadLetter, Dec 6, 2011
    #518
  3. imjustagirl

    imjustagirl Active Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    God, if that happens, my coworker's head might explode. He's a giant Angels fan.

    Well, he's normal sized, but he likes the Angels a lot.
     
    imjustagirl, Dec 6, 2011
    #519
  4. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    This after they just traded away pitching (Chatwood)?

    They obviously need to do something, but will Arte bite the bullet? And I'm pumped they are in the conversation for something. But is it smart? And will Arte bite the bullet?
     
    MileHigh, Dec 6, 2011
    #520
  5. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Plus, the Angels have Trumbo and, if he gets healthy, Morales. Again, still not buying into this.
     
    MileHigh, Dec 6, 2011
    #521
  6. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Yeah, but Trumbo struggles to get on base, and Morales remains a huge question mark. They certainly need a third baseman more than a first baseman, but if you can get Pujols it opens up trade options.

    The Chatwood deal gave them a badly needed upgrade at catcher. I don't know that they were sold that Chatwood was a great long-term option in the rotation, but it did leave them thin.

    I've just about got myself talked into this.
     
    PCLoadLetter, Dec 6, 2011
    #522
  7. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Yeah, you do. Especially since I've been been watching Iannetta the past few years ... and I'm not sold. Yes, an upgrade from what they had (hell, I would have been).

    I don't think they pull it off, especially if it's 10 years/$220 million-plus.

    It's too much, frankly, and could hamstring the franchise.

    Though I love St. Mike coming out saying he wants pitching over a bat, like it could be a smokescreen or they're in play for Fielder for fewer years/less money.
     
    MileHigh, Dec 6, 2011
    #523
  8. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Aggravating to think the annual salary would be close to what they're stuck paying Vernon Wells for the next three years.
     
    PCLoadLetter, Dec 6, 2011
    #524
  9. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    There's a reason Reagins is gone. It starts right there.
     
    MileHigh, Dec 6, 2011
    #525
  10. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Mets trade Angel Pagan to the Giants for Andres Torres (challenge trade!) and reliever Ramon Ramirez.

    They also and sign relievers Frank Francisco to a 2-year deal ($12 million) and Jon Rauch to a one-year deal ($3.5 million):

    http://es.pn/uD4JCj

    Seem like solid moves for New York, though I'd rather have Pagan than Torres and I'm generally not wild about multi-year contracts for relievers (especially injury prone ones). The passage below might be an indication of why they'd want to move Pagan:

     
    Steak Snabler, Dec 7, 2011
    #526
  11. TigerVols

    TigerVols Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    I don't believe I'll be watching Pujols in Anheim this season.

    Far more likely? The rumor going around of a Bourjos-David Wright swap.

    That one makes far more sense.
     
    TigerVols, Dec 7, 2011
    #527
  12. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Really? After the Mets just got a CF? I know Bourjos is superior defensively to Torres (and just about everyone), but that seems like a strange move.
     
    Big Circus, Dec 7, 2011
    #528
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