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2011-12 Hot Stove Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by bigpern23, Oct 31, 2011.

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  1. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Yep. Let's not confuse this with any "Moneyball"-related strategy.

    Every move is made with one eye on getting out of the Coliseum.
     
    buckweaver, Dec 23, 2011
    #781
  2. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Granted a lot of this is probably at the beck and call of Lewis Wolff, not Beene. The former is very much a bottom-liner when it comes to the teams he runs (A's and MLS Earthquakes).
     
    HanSenSE, Dec 23, 2011
    #782
  3. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    DeRosa is a good "clubhouse guy" too.
     
    Football_Bat, Dec 23, 2011
    #783
  4. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    I'm not overjoyed at giving up both Millone AND Peacock in the deal, but Cole, I'm sure, was a must for the A's. Still, I'm not going to complain. This Gio guy, who I've never really heard of until this winter for some reason, seems legit. Who would have thought the Nats could have an overqualified No. 3 pitcher? And have their top 3 guys locked down for the next four (or is it five?) years? Kinda silly.

    85-90 wins isn't crazy talk in NatsTown anymore.
     
    JackReacher, Dec 23, 2011
    #784
  5. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Well, the Nats won 80 this year. With LaRoche hurt all year. Zimmerman for half of it. Werth doing not a lot (though he ended up with 20 HRs) and essentially no Strasburg.

    The same core returns, plus you figure a bit more out of Z-n and LaR. 30 starts for SS sted 5.

    Hell, if Morse just knew how to take a walk, they might have won 85 last year.

    I suspect some publications will pick the Nats as high as second in that division. I wouldn't but, as you noted, not crazy talk. A lot of good, young, key pieces.

    Now they need to lock up Zimmerman and head to spring training.
     
    Moderator1, Dec 23, 2011
    #785
  6. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Yup.

    But I just can't shake this bad feeling I have about the Zimmerman thing. I hope like hell I'm wrong.
     
    JackReacher, Dec 23, 2011
    #786
  7. Gehrig

    Gehrig Active Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Moddy, you also have to remember that the other NL East teams got better. I'm not sure if the Nationals have 85 wins in them, but they're much improve with the new additions they've made over the off-season.

    Do you believe Bryce, makes the jump this year? Yes, I called him Bryce on purpose just for you ;-)

    *Bryce Harper*
     
    Gehrig, Dec 23, 2011
    #787
  8. Chef2

    Chef2 Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    13 million a year and full no-trade seems like a mountain of money to give Beltran.
     
    Chef2, Dec 23, 2011
    #788
  9. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    The Mets got better? The Braves got better? How did the Phillies get better (they were already better than the Nats and remain that way)?

    The Marlins did get better but we'll see how quickly Hanley R. makes the whole thing unravel.
     
    Moderator1, Dec 23, 2011
    #789
  10. Gehrig

    Gehrig Active Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Alright, I should have said the Phillies and Marlins got better.

    The Phillies added Jonathan Papelbon, they also added two veterans in Thome and Nix. That makes them better in my book.
     
    Gehrig, Dec 23, 2011
    #790
  11. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    Nats won 7 of the last 9 against Philly, including a four-game sweep in September. And won the season series 10-8.

    Not that it means jack shit. I just enjoy pointing that out.
     
    JackReacher, Dec 23, 2011
    #791
  12. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Re: 2011 Hot Stove Thread

    And Pap doesn't scare anyone. Especially Robert Andino!
     
    Flying Headbutt, Dec 23, 2011
    #792
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