2012-13 College Basketball Running Cordial Discussion

What are the odds anyone at Forbes notices the socialist undercurrents in the Butler Way?

 

I don't hate Butler like you do, but I can understand the annoyance after somehow being drawn into an argument with alums on the thread under that piece when I was trying to COMPLEMENT the job Butler did in finally putting up the bucks to leverage its greatest asset, Hinkle Fieldhouse, into greater viability for basketball, the whole athletic program and the school itself.

Some numbnuts wondered what rock I was living under because I appeared to be so ignorant of Butler's basketball tradition. Seriously? I remember poor Joe Sexson trying to coach a team of 6-foot kids from New Castle (imagine a whole team of Chase Stigalls) in a program with a budget of about $5, drawing 2-3,000 if they were lucky. That was the program for most of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. Oh, and I believe Sexson also had to coach baseball, too. It was a very minor-league operation all the way. I know it's been a while since those dark days, but any Butler fan who acts like this all some sort of god-given karmic gift for being pure under The Butler Way is completely full of shit. Heck, if Butler doesn't reup Brad Stevens for $1 million-plus for year, and doesn't make designs on moving out of the Horizon, it's just another mid-major that's a way station to somewhere else.

 

BYU is OK, too. And Mark Few is not as good a coach as others like to make him out to be.

 

There's been talk for years that Gonzaga should move up to a better conference, but without a football program, I'm not sure what options it has on the west coast.

 

Ponts galore in Madison. Michigan leads 60-57 with 2.4 seconds to go.

EDIT: And the Badgers hit a shot from just across midcourt to tie it at the buzzer.

 

Holy SHIT! Wisky with the miracle tie!

 

That was one hell of a game.

 

Didn't see the entire game, but saw the last few minutes... Can't believe neither team got into the bonus, even in overtime. And can't believe neither team intentionally fouled to prevent the key baskets at the end of regulation.

 

Miami gently slipped past UNC 87-61.

 

You're not a top 5 team if you have to use a Triangle and 2 to try and slow down Oklahoma. Even if Kansas manages to come back, they should fall quite far in the rankings.

 

Correct. It's one thing to expose a team, but usually it happens a lot earlier than February.

Funnier still, Florida State has hit the skids. I don't care if it was in Winston-Salem of the dark side of the moon. No one should get housed by Wake Forest this season. Yet the Seminoles just did.

Dunno if Miami is here to stay over the course of many years, but this team needed to be taken seriously a long time ago. Not much more for the Hurricanes to prove, though I wouldn't be surprised if some won't validate them until they beat Duke in Durham or something like that. They've passed every other test, and the only reason they're not more highly regarded are the early-season losses, one of them to Florida-Gulf Coast.

 

Self has actually used the Triangle-and-2 a lot over the years, including several times with last year's team that made the national championship game. Give Lon Kruger credit for recognizing that's what KU was running, something Roy Williams failed to do last year.


I've gone from thinking another Big 12 title was a done deal, that a Final Four would be a good season and a NCAA title a possibility to hoping KU can somehow salvage a tie for the Big 12 to keep that streak alive and maybe make it out of the first round of the NCAA Tournament.

By just about any tangible measure, Self is the best coach KU has had since Phog Allen, but he screwed himself by not signing a point guard for this team.