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2012 MLB Regular Season Running Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Gehrig, Mar 28, 2012.

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  1. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Yet you're still the only person saying anything about him being (or not being) more than a completely acceptable fill-in at 2B while Desmond is out.

    Yeah, he'll do.
     
    JackReacher, Aug 11, 2012
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  2. Uncle.Ruckus

    Uncle.Ruckus Guest

    He has been exactly one-tenth of one win more valuable than a minor league scrub.

    I never said he doesn't belong on the roster. I said he has no business playing this often. The stats more than back me up on that. If you want to stick with intangibles and Playing The Game The Right Way, more power to you.
     
    Uncle.Ruckus, Aug 11, 2012
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  3. RickStain

    RickStain Well-Known Member

    Fangraphs has it closer to half a win. Which is why it is silly to be parsing tenths of a win (not directed specifically at your argument, but in general). He's clearly an above-replacement player, which is all you can ask out of a versatile bench bat.
     
    RickStain, Aug 11, 2012
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  4. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Ok, so who do the Nationals have that should be playing? Scroll back up to Moddy's post. They've battled quite a few injuries this season. Once Desmond returns, assuming the other starters stay healthy, Lombardozzi's going to be back in a reserve role.
     
    outofplace, Aug 11, 2012
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  5. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    Good. Glad we got permission on that one. Whew.
     
    jr/shotglass, Aug 11, 2012
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  6. SoCalDude

    SoCalDude Active Member

    Scorer gave Trout 2 RBIs on the sac fly. He had 5 in the game. Angels win in the bottom of the ninth on a bases-loaded wild pitch. Scioscia did pinch run for Morales this time. Bourjos beat the throw back to the plate.
     
    SoCalDude, Aug 11, 2012
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  7. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Not that they've had a lot of chances to prove your claim, but D.C. has historically been a terrible market for baseball attendance.

    This year, the Nats are 8th out of 16 teams in attendance, currently on pace to draw about 2.4M, just a shade over what they had in 2005, when they went 59-102 in their first year at Nats Park. The ex-Expos have never finished higher than 8th in NL attendance.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/WSN/attend.shtml

    In D.C.'s last attempt at major league ball, the expansion Senators' best year of attendance was 1969, when they drew all of 918,000 fans with Ted Williams as their manager and a surprisingly successful 86-76 team. That placed them 6th of 12 in the AL. They drew 824K the following year, about 11,000 per game, and 655K in their final year before Bob Short ripped out his fans' hearts and moved the team to Texas.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TEX/attend.shtml

    The original Nationals/Senators only once reached 1 million in attendance, in 1946 when baseball's stars returned from war and the game's popularity soared. After finishing last in attendance every year from 1955-60, the team moved to Minnesota and promptly surpassed 1 million fans every year from 1961-70.

    The Nats' highest-ever ranking came when they finished 2nd in the AL in attendance in 1933, when they made a glorious run to the city's last pennant. They finished 3rd in 1943, a war year, and also 3rd in 1925, the year after winning their only World Series.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIN/attend.shtml
     
    buckweaver, Aug 11, 2012
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  8. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    First year of Nats Park was 2008. The did three years in RFK


    So Strasburg seems to have had a bit of an issue with some back tightness? Hey now, there's a skipped start. The line is up to 180, there's 47 innings left **** more convinced than ever he won't be shut down during the season.
     
    Moderator1, Aug 11, 2012
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  9. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    The line moved from 160 to 180 .... wha' happened?
     
    HanSenSE, Aug 11, 2012
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  10. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Well, Rizzo has said HE never said 160 - that was an assumption made based on the 160 for Jordan Zimmermann last season. He's only said there was a line somewhere and he'd know it when he saw it. So now 180 seems to be the consensus though nobody seems to be saying that.

    http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120810&content_id=36463116&notebook_id=36467864&vkey=notebook_was&c_id=was


    My point above is he's somehow going to make it through and there will be comments galore about how they were able to do it because Davey Johnson managed his innings so well and Stephen stayed so strong. They can't just come out and say, "We decided to screw that because we're good this year."
     
    Moderator1, Aug 11, 2012
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  11. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Is any accounting taking into consideration the playoffs, which could happen unless they pull a '64 Phillies? If not, it's gonna be a tough sell in the clubhouse and the grandstand, going into the postseason less than fully loaded.

    I guess I'm a little old school in regards to this ... good grief, he'll have until next spring to rest whenever the season ends.
     
    HanSenSE, Aug 11, 2012
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  12. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    As far as I know, total innings. They're not saying, "plus whatever we need in postseason."

    I still say they "manage" to get him a few postseason starts if there are that many to be had.

    That said, you're the Nats. You put up a tough fight but fall short because the Braves are pretty good, too. So you have a one-game playoff for the playoffs.

    All three are rested, ready. Strasburg, Gonzalez or Zimmermann?
     
    Moderator1, Aug 11, 2012
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