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2012 MLB Regular Season Running Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Gehrig, Mar 28, 2012.

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  1. Armchair_QB

    Armchair_QB Well-Known Member

    Just saw this on Twitter:

    Is there any reason Miguel Socolovich's grandparents might have immigrated from Germany to Venezuela in the 40s?
     
  2. podunk press

    podunk press Active Member

    The Orioles fans are ... finally ... starting to believe in this and get excited.

    Historically, when such emotions started to boil over, the Orioles choked in a pivotal series (Toronto, 1989) against a divisional foe.

    Although if Mark Reynolds keeps bashing like this, and Zach Britton, Joe Saunders and Jason Hammel can be decent, they've got a shot.
     
  3. cjericho

    cjericho Well-Known Member

    Cabrera won't have enough plate appearances to qualify ... by one. He has 501 PA's, and it takes 502. However, the Tony Gwynn rule (where the 502nd PA is figured in as a hitless at-bat) may apply.
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    Which begs the question, why not just make the minimum 501?
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    It's not adding only one at-bat. If a guy hit .400 in 400 plate appearances (let's say, hypothetically, he didn't walk and had 160 hits in 400 at-bats), he'd win the batting title if no one else hit .3187 (160 hits divided by 502 at-bats).
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    Which is a really odd rule. There is a minimum to be considered at all, but I forget what that is.
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    Something like 3.1 ABs for every game played by your team. (162 x 3.1 = 502?)
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    I believe that is how they come up with 502, but I think there is another number and if a hitter has fewer than that, they won't even calculate it by giving him hitless at-bats.
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    I think what the number is you must have 3.1 official at-bats per game played to qualify, the official at bats includes walks and HBPs. If you are still short, they then add the "Gwynn" abs to get to 502 and determine your BA for purposes of the title.

    Melky's ABs plus walks = 501 so they are adding one additional AB.
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    At first glance I read Gwynn abs and didn't realize it was at-bats, was thinking Tony Gwynn never had abs.
     
  4. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Could the three with the A's be for home field in the one-gamer?
     
  5. MileHigh

    MileHigh Moderator Staff Member

    Maybe, but the Angels are coming on strong, closing in on their 11th win in the past 14.
     
  6. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    outofplace is saying there's a minimum number of plate appearances required to even be considered. In other words, if a player with, say, 300 plate appearances hit .650, that might not be enough to be considered even though the adjusted average would likely be good enough to win a batting title.
     
  7. Football_Bat

    Football_Bat Well-Known Member

    Angels, A's and Rangers will be beating up on each other starting Sept. 18. The only way you'll gain serious ground is by sweeping a series. If you only win or lose two of three, the net change is only one game. That's not good enough when the gap is four games and the number of games left gets into the teens.

    If anyone is going to make a move in the West, they need to do it now against the Royals and Indians.
     
  8. buckweaver

    buckweaver Active Member

    Incorrect. There is no minimum number of plate appearances, according to rule 10.22(a). Any number of plate appearances can be "added" under the Gwynn Rule.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_scorer_10.jsp

    So if a player was hitting .650 after 300 plate appearances — for simplicity's sake, let's say he has 195 hits in 300 ABs (.650) — then he would most likely still win the batting title with a rounded-down .388 average in (195/502) if you added in 202 hypothetical plate appearances.
     
  9. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Yeah, I hadn't heard of a minimum for consideration, either.
     
  10. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Thank you. Wasn't sure and was being too lazy to look it up.
     
  11. Flying Headbutt

    Flying Headbutt Moderator Staff Member

    Fuck that. They're to put padding between them and the Yankees.
     
  12. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

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