2013 College Football coaching carousel

Amazed on any posts on Kansas football.

Both Mason and Mangino took over last place programs and both built them to levels of real respectability. Not 10 wins a year but a decent level of 6-8. The trouble is, as along as Snyder is in Manhattan, KU won't be a force. Mangino's best years came when Ron Prince was 90 miles away.

Terry Allen had five dreadful years and the program eroded. Mangino got them to a bowl in Year 2. Yet in 2006, KU was also 2-6 and Mangino nearly got fired. He simply irritated too many people but, I will say, the football complex at KU looks like a legit college football environment now. In 2001, it looked like a high school outfit.

I don't believe Weis is the answer just as I never thought Turner Gill was. Gill was the second version of Terry Allen. A nice guy with some success at a lower level. Mason was an asshole with success at a lower level.

 

The time to start judging Weis will be after next season because pieces are in place for KU to make a big jump in number wins like it did from year one to year two of the Mangino and Mason eras. Dave Campo has made a 180-degree turn with the defense, which is actually pretty decent and there are some playmakers on offense, Sims in particular. KU is actually a decent quarterback away from being OK (and if some recruit out of Texas whose name escapes me at the moment had chosen OU instead of UT, Blake Bell would likely be in Lawrence right now, but I've heard Jake Heaps looks phenomenal in practice. We'll see next year.).

Crist is a huge disappointment. His decision making is just pathetic. The record is awful, but this team is about 20-times better than Gill's two teams. With decent quarterback play KU probably has wins versus Rice, Northern Illinois, OK State and Texas and people are talking about a possible bowl game.

Depth is also a big issue, which should get better over the next few years. KU has simply worn down and lost games in the fourth quarter this year, but actually being in games in the second half is a major improvement over Gill.

 

Have expectations grown so out of control at places like Oklahoma where Stoops may decide it's not worth it anymore and bail of his own choosing?

He has lost something like 4 games total in Norman in his career there, annually makes Texas his bitch, but it seems there are a growing number of fans who think after games like last night that the season is a complete waste and it's unacceptable that OU's last national title was in 1999 or whenever.

 

I don't see how any set of expectations can be considered unreasonable when a coach is getting paid $5M a year. (I'm not an Oklahoma fan.)

 

Possibly. But where else is he going to go that's better? He could do a Tubby Smith and go to a small conference school for much less money and less pressure. Or retire. That's about it.

I mean things wouldn't be any better for him at Arkansas, Auburn or Tennessee after the first couple of years.

 

I'm really starting to think Chizik can't survive this. I think the players have gotten out a roll of stamps and mailed it in. If the players aren't listening to what the coaches are saying, you've got to get new coaches, national title in 2010 or not.

 

I took my son on a campus visit to another school that is very arrogant about it's academic reputation, Virginia. It was explained to the assembled visitors that Virginia admits 2,200 in-state students a year and 1,100 out of state students. But 140 slots are taken off the top and given to the athletic department. The admissions staff "works" with the athletic department on these slots. So none of the athletes have to go through the regular admissions process.

 

I posted this in the Week 9 thread, but I suppose it makes more sense here.

Versatile's Southeastern Conference football coaching jobs power rankings:

1. Florida
2. Louisiana State
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5. Tennessee
6. Arkansas
7. Texas A&M
8. Auburn
9. Missouri
10. South Carolina
11. Mississippi State
12. Vanderbilt
13. Kentucky
14. Mississippi

Rankings are based on pay, prestige, fan expectations and ability to succeed.

 

Good thing there aren't too many hardcore Auburn fans on here or they might take offense at Auburn only being No. 8. However, given the other discussions we've been having - on this thread and others - it's hard to rank them any higher right now.

 

Hard-core Auburn fans can fuck off. Fuck them, their Newton and their "Bo Knows Football."

 

LOL. I can understand the sentiment. I'm down here in hardcore Auburn country, so I know where you are coming from.

 

It seems pretty subjective... It seems hard to call Florida the best job in the conference when Muschamp entered his second season already on the hot seat. Obviously, that's changed pretty quickly, but if you're given less than a three-year window to win big, that's an insane amount of pressure, but par for the course for at least 10 of the 14 teams in the SEC.

Saban's position at Alabama is the best college coaching job in the country and maybe one of the best coaching jobs in any sport college or pro. He has that kind of pay, that kind of power and is essentially untouchable. I get the sense Meyer has a similar-type deal at Ohio State. That kind of a deal is usually earned by winning multiple titles...

I don't think Auburn's biggest problem is the fans as much as it is the boosters, or one specific booster. If you run off a coach who had the kind of success there that Tuberville did, you deserve whatever you get.