2013 College Football coaching carousel

I'm generally in favor of giving guys some time to turn things around and not necessarily judging them on their win-loss record right away. But you've got to show some signs things are improving. Both Embree and Gill were sending teams out there that were losing to FCS teams and not even coming close to competing against teams in their own leagues. And it wasn't getting any better from week to week.

In Gill's case, not only was the on-field product pathetic, but players were failing academically. There was absolutely no reason to think things were going to be any better after three, four or five years, so why wait to get rid of him?

 

He probably should not have taken the job in the first place. But maybe he was desperate to be a head coach someplace.

 

I didn't follow the Gill saga too closely, but I thought Mangino left him with little?

He's a good recruiter, as proven by his ability to send a crappy-ass Buffalo team to a bowl game.

 

He went 20-30 at Buffalo, 5-7 in his fourth and final season. Why would one fluke year indicate that he's a good recruiter?

 

Buffalo was brutal for years, even in the years when they were in I-AA. The fact that anyone went to play there is nothing short of a miracle.

 

With the exception of Rich Rod trying to weasle his way out of his contract - they do honor it. They just honor it by paying the buyout when they take another job. It's still honoring the contract. If schools are in a position to negotiate bigger buyouts to make it less attractive for coaches to leave - then do it. But I get a little annoyed when people say the coach isn't honoring the contract.

 

You've never asked for a raise? That must have taken you far in life.

 

Reesing, Talib, Meier and some of the other stars of the Orange Bowl team were gone, but the roster was filled with the highest rated recruiting classes KU ever had. Gill had players that chose KU over the likes of Ohio State, Wisconsin, Arkansas, A&M, TCU and others. KU had basically never won head-to-head recruiting battles with programs like that before, any success came from finding guys other programs undervalued for whatever reason.

Obviously, those guys didn't live up to the recruiting hype with Gill as their coach, though some of them have played well this year for Weis.

 

Mark Mangino is the Norman Dale of college football coaches.

Yet he will eat Hershey kisses rather than enjoy kisses with Hershey.

#GoodnightToledo!

 

But he wouldn't have. Saban would have never taken a job that allowed him to go 4-21 in his first two seasons.

Saban isn't one of those coaches that has to screw the fattest chick in the bar, just so he can chalk up the night as a 'W'.

Embree was stuck getting turned down at bar time by Sacramento State, which I hear has a nice personality.

Colorado is now a joke in football, faded glory at its worst in the sport. I remember posting that Savannah State is scraping together money to bring in Colorado for 2013. That underlines how far they've fallen. Embree took a bad job and didn't improve it.

How many of us have been at hopeless media outlets? I have. No matter what you do, there just isn't the support or the infrastructure. The places that fire management every 17 months. That's what Colorado is.

 

This has nothing to do with the coaching search but as a former football player at Central Arkansas, I'd like to thank the previous posters for noting that it is a good football program.

I've also never attended one of their games as a fan since leaving school but I'm suddenly quite fired up about making a road trip to Boulder to watch that game next September.

 

And good luck trying to hire a football coach when you are saying the contract is iron-clad on both ends, will last "X" number of years and there will be no changes, no buyouts, no nothing. It is what it is and the 2 sides are wedded together for that length of time. You're going to lose more good candidates than you'll attract with that line of thinking.