2013 MLB Hall of Fame Screechfest

the accepted measure for a hitter is to produce runs, numbnuts. nothing more, nothing less.

 

Except he didn't produce more runs per year, as I already explained in terms so simple even you should understand. I already said that your opinion that Martinez was a better hitter than Molitor has some merit, though I think you were trying to argue that he was a better player entirely and there is a significant distinction. My point was and is that the statistical comparison you provided isn't good enough because you intentionally left out the categories where Molitor is clearly superior.

I'm sorry. You would have had to read an entire paragraph to get that one. I guess you'll just have to wallow in your ignorance while everybody else sees you getting your tail kicked.

 

Molitor produced more per 162 games. not Martinez. Dig into your bag of fifth-grade insults all you like, but it won't change that fact.

 

jesus christ. martinez was pretty much a slow career DH. wtf would i argue fielding or stolen bases? what are you, stupid?

 

over a 162-game season at the plate, martinez scored 96 runs a game and drove in another 99. molitor scored 108 and drove in 79.

 

martinez = 195
molitor = 187

dig into your fifth-grade mind now, because nothing is going to change those facts.

 

Which is why I brought those up to demonstrate the flaws in your comparison. At least try to keep up.

 

Speaking of willful ignorance. I've explained this to you repeatedly. The accepted measure is to add RBI and runs, then subtract home runs so the player doesn't get credit for the same run twice. It's not that complicated. Even you should be able to get it if you try.

By the CORRECT measure of run production:

Molitor = 173
Martinez = 171

 

i think it was obvious to everybody but you that i was comparing them as hitters, since, ya know, i only brought hitting stats into the picture to begin with and the fact that martinez pretty much only was a hitter for most of his career.
my god, are you that fucking dense?

 

ya know what, numbnuts? i'm going to go ahead and count them the way that MLB counts them ... since they play in, ya know, MLB.

 

Runs produced is a silly measure anyway.

RC per game:

E. Martinez: 8.1
P. Molitor: 6.2

RC best 5 seasons:

E. Martinez: 161, 144, 142, 141, 140
P. Molitor: 136, 132, 125, 119, 117

No one can seriously argue that Molitor was better at creating/producing runs at his peak than Martinez.

 

No, but TP brought up run production, so I just took that as one more opportunity to point out the gaping holes in his comparison.