2013 MLB Hall of Fame Screechfest

Rbi's, scrappiness.

 

I don't think anyone would say that, just out of self-preservation and not wanting to look stupid, but there are a whole lot of people writing that they are going to wait on Bonds and Clemens because they are awaiting new information. What freaking new information is there going to be?

And I will bet $1,000 that of the people who don't vote for them this year, many many will next year, despite there being no new information. And in those cases the actions speak much louder than whatever empty cliches they come up with.

 

Exactly. We had somebody who claims to have a vote on this very thread write about holding PED users accountable and say that he will at least wait on anybody that he suspects of PED use. He refused to admit that he is punishing anybody, but it was very clear in his posts that he is doing exactly that.

 

Anyone who submits a blank ballot can go fuck him or herself. You're a fucking baseball writer (which isn't even the case for some of these jokers who have a vote); trust me, you're not as important as you think you are.

 

I hope those jokers don't own guns.

 

Drip has a vote. Allegedly.

 

So far there are six terrible ballots -- four blanks, a vote only for Morris and a vote only for Murphy.

 

I give you John Tomase of the Boston Herald. He voted for seven, including McGwire, Bagwell and Piazza.

http://bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/mlb_coverage/2012/12/ballot_initiative

This is his reason for McGwire: I’m kind of at peace with the era and ready to judge the players for their accomplishments (with two exceptions; see below). McGwire was a beast.

And to finish the column, here is why he isn't voting for Bonds or Clemens, YET -- "I’m not ready to go there, not after the two of them hubristically kept steroids on the front page for about a decade by themselves, harming the game as much as Pete Rose."

 

Wow. So his stupid fuckery wasn't limited to his Patriots reporting.

 

And there, Bobcat, is your voter leaving guys off to punish them.

 

I also submit Mike Nadel:

http://thebaldesttruth.blogspot.com/2012/12/hall-call-4-get-my-vote-most-big-names.html

BARRY BONDS … Statistical no-brainer but steroid use had a major impact on his numbers in the latter third of his career. Game of Shadows, the book that is considered the definitive chronicle of his juicing, said he began using in 1999 after he was jealous of the attention Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire received the year before. If that is true, and there is no reason to believe otherwise, Bonds already had incredible career numbers and was well on his way to a Hall of Fame career. Given all that, I almost surely will vote for him … just not this year. I never have been a voter who emphasized “first-ballot Hall of Famer” as being special, but I will in this kind of case.

ROGER CLEMENS … See my Bonds explanation regarding Hall of Fame numbers before he allegedly started juicing. Unlike Bonds, Clemens was completely cleared by a jury. Still, I’m guessing the true Clemens story has not been told yet, so I’m also going to deny him first-ballot Hall status. As an aside, one could argue that all the talk about him making a comeback next season is another reason to delay his Hall entrance.

 

Ok, I'll grant you Nadel.

As for the "wait for more information" people, I think that means "wait to see how everyone feels about steroids in a year or two or three or 10."

It's not what I'd do, but I don't think it renders their vote invalid or makes them incompetent as voters.