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2013 NFL draft running thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Well, Manuel was the only QB taken in the first round. In fact, he was the only one taken in the Top 72 (10th pick in the 3rd round).

    So if the Bills don't take him at 16, I doubt anyone else would have taken him before 73 either. Teams were daring each other to take a QB, despite the fact there were no really good ones in this draft.

    And the Bills blinked.
     
  2. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Here is one draft aggregator that ranked Manuel mid to late first round on the high end.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/probe.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2013

    But again ... This was a draft where the guy supposedly ticketed for #3 (Floyd) went 24th. The QB supposedly considered for the first pick went 39th. The Cowboys used a first-round pick on a center projected for the third round. Keenan Allen was at one time thought to be the top receiver and he went #76.

    I don't know where you are drawing your conclusions, but it's pretty clear the bullshitters (teams and scouts) are way ahead of the bullshittees (draftniks and reporters) nowadays, so any talk about where a team ***could*** have gotten a player is totally uninformed.
     
  3. DanOregon

    DanOregon Well-Known Member

    Is there significance to the Jaguars canning their pro personnel department and a regional scout? I realize pro personnel deals with players in the league and not as involved in college - but right after the draft?

    Never mind. Didn't realize they were holdovers from the previous GM.
     
  4. JackReacher

    JackReacher Well-Known Member

    Huh?
     
  5. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    http://profootballmock.com/intercepted-text-jerry-jones-and-jason-garret-discuss-the-cowboys-2013-draft/
     
  6. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    This guy should be fun:

     
  7. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    The whole thing should be fun to watch. How soon before his former agents let it leak out that they paid Geno while he was at West Virginia. Only thing holding them back might be risk of decertification as NFL agent.
     
  8. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Leigh Steinberg is on Facebook now, and when he isn't talking about how awesome he is for ceasing to be a face-down drunk, he occasionally has some good agent insights. On draft night he was going off about how insane it was for the agents to be that unaware of Smith's status that they would have him in the green room -- he said you always have a minimum guarantee of where your guy will go in the worst-case scenario, and if you don't have that you don't go in front of the cameras.
     
  9. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    There are situations where the agent should shoulder some of the blame.

    Tom Condon is the master of how he presents his clients. What he did with Alex Smith was just masterful. He let him work out just once, at Utah's pro day and wouldn't send his client to any team for private workouts. Nobody had the chance to pick apart his shortcomings.

    That same year, Aaron Rodgers, who had a lower-level agent who has since been fired, was sending his client to work out privately for any team that asked and at one point even told the 49ers that if they drafted Rodgers, he would sign for $5 million less than what Smith was asking for.
     
  10. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    prospects watch 'jerry maguire' ovr and over and become brain-washed by agents that THEY can influence how high they'll go in the draft and hlow awful the other agents courting them are. smith is reportedly going to sigh joel segal as his new agent. i've known joel from his start repping nfl players in the late '80s (early '90s) and he's one of the best at picking up prospects at the moment they fire their agent (he's despised in the industry for shredding other agents and taking 'em on when the original agent has been fired). dirty stinkin' bizness, sports agentry.

    at any rate, the immaturity and naivete' displayed by smith since draft day has only reinforced the thinking that he is in way over his head and way too soon. if this kid proves to be the real deal it will be SHOCKING, i can't imagine it.I
     
  11. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    What percentage of first-round picks this year have seen Jerry Maguire? Eric Fisher was 4 when it came out.
     
  12. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    By hiring Steinberg in the first place, Geno must have thought it was the early 1990s.

    If you're a top QB prospect, your first calls should be to Condon or Dunn...

    There's a reason why so many of the top QBs are with the same 3-5 guys.
     
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