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2013 NFL draft running thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Steak Snabler, Dec 10, 2012.

  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    CAA is Tom Condon. Jay Z is just a recruiter. That's a good move for Smith.
     
  2. Boom_70

    Boom_70 Well-Known Member

    Jay Z is partnering with CAA.

    http://hiphopwired.com/2013/04/16/jay-z-will-apply-to-become-nfl-mlb-certifed-sports-agent/

    Jay-Z's Roc Nations Sports agency has been one of the business mogul's boldest moves to date. Partnering with Creative Artists Agency (CAA) for the venture, the Brooklyn bomber is faced with a dilemma that could put his sports agent aims in jeopardy. The National Football League Players Association (NFLPA) said that Jay-Z cannot sign players unless he becomes certified by the association.
     
  3. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    And even if they don't graduate, a lot of them quit school after the first semester or take online classes so they can concentrate on draft preparation.
     
  4. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    Shit, Johnny Manziel's doing that NOW.
     
  5. Mizzougrad96

    Mizzougrad96 Active Member

    I'm guessing he wishes he called Condon a couple months ago...
     
  6. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Bob McGinn said it was a 24. But you can have a Wonderlic of 16 like Heath Schuler and wind up in Congress.
     
  7. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    24 is quite respectable. neither off the charts high nor low. keep in mind a few high-profile prospects register single-digit sscores. qb's are expected to score among the highest and you'd like your qb to do well as an indication he thinks quickly on his feet. bear in mind it in no way measures someone's leadership skills.
     
  8. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    A very rough estimate of someone's IQ is 60 +2 X score the Wonderlic score. So when Ryan Nassib gets a 41 the formula would work like this:

    60 + (2 X 41) = 142

    So using the same formula Smith's score is:

    60 + (24 X 2) = 108

    I know that formula is very simplistic and crude but Malcolm Gladwell in his book made the point that lots of time an IQ is a threshold test. You need a certain IQ to be successful but after that level is achieved it no longer matters. I think quarterback in the NFL is like that. You need a basic level of intelligence to understand the playbook and the coverages and then after that threshold is reached it does not make a hell of a lot of difference. Marino, Bradshaw and Jim Kelly all scored 16 or below so Smith is fine using the Wonderlic as a criteria.

    Personally Smith reminds me of Marino. A very good college quarterback who seems to have the physical skills to be successful in the NFL. A lot of people are using relatively trivial, intangible things such as teammates don't stand around him on the sideline to indicate a lack of leadership skills (that came from the Bob McGinn column quoting a scout). I think that people can out think themselves sometimes, just as they did with Marino.
     
  9. shockey

    shockey Active Member

    you had me until you opined that smith reminds you of marino. they couldn't be much more different. most strikingly in their passing -- marino fired bullets primarily DOWNFIELD. smith avg pass traveled just over 7 yards in the air, second worst in the country, which explains his other-wordly completion percentage. the gameboy system at west va. had him throwing an insane number of quick slant and screens to speedy wideouts who piled up insane after-the-catch yardage.

    the closer it got to the draft the more nfl teams had the time to calculate smith's downfield passing pct wasnt so other-worldly. coupled with questions about how he'll adjust to dropping back taking snaps from center (reading defense, picking up his reivers in progression, etc.) the more teams wonder how long his transition to the nfl would and how much his passing accuracy would suffer. mixed in with increasing doubts about his maturity and work habits was why he lasted until round 2 -- which isnt exactly an insult. he's gonna get every chance to convince the jets he deserves the starting job and a longterm commitment as the franchise's qb -- every chance between now and next year's draft, that is. they want to get handle on smith asap so they know whether QB should be their top priority when the real stud prospects are up for grabs.
     
  10. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    You never had me. That was some nonsense all around with the IQ test and the Dan Marino comparison. Dan Marino would not have fallen out of the top 10 in today's draft. We're much better at scouting.
     
  11. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    If everyone thought he was a coke head (or a meth head or heroin addict in today's world) he would drop.
     
  12. YankeeFan

    YankeeFan Well-Known Member

    That's not why he fell in the draft.
     
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