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2013 Pro Football Hall of Fame Finalists

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Della9250, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    By my count, 13 eligible MVPs aren't in the Hall, and most likely never will be. Some should be (Ken Stabler, 1976, for instance), but most were damn good players having by far their most outstanding year, like Steve McNair in 2003. Charlie Conerly, Ken Anderson, Roman Gabriel, guys like that.
    PS: Brian Sipe was an MVP. So was Boomer Esiason.
     
  2. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Since 1970, when the Hall went to the 15 finalists set-up, the last time a QB was inducted after the first ballot was Len Dawson in 1987 on his third try. Sonny Jurgensen went in on his third try in 1983. Y.A. Tittle and Norm Van Brocklin both went in on the second try in 1971.

    Kurt Warner is going to be a second-fifth try electee depending on the strength of the other 14 finalists.

    The other first time big names in 2015 are Isaac Bruce, Edgerrin James, Walter Jones, Ty Law, Kevin Mawae, Orlando Pace and Junior Seau. And Brett Favre looms as a first-time guy a year later. The year before, theonly two big first-timers are Tony Dungy and Marvin Harrison.

    So if the Hall puts in two max classes this year and next, they could clear out as many as seven holdover finalists. But if I had to bet, Warner goes in a year after Favre.
     
  3. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    Good analysis, Della. Jones, Pace and Seau, however, are the only surefire inductees in that group. Leaves room for Kurt.
     
  4. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Orlando Pace is not getting in ahead of Kurt Warner.
     
  5. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    You have to be kidding. or a raider fan. (You did get might testy about Howie Long's Hall candidacy being helped by being on TV.)

    Kurt Warner was a two-time NFL MVP. Jim Plunkett was a no-time Pro Bowler who only led the NFL in two major passing stats: Yards sacked in 1972 and interceptions in 1974.

    I wouldn't say Warner is a slam dunk Hall of Famer, but comparing him to Jim Plunkett makes you look like a moron.
     
  6. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Maybe he is a moron. Did you ever think of that?
     
  7. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    Roethlisberger has started in three, too.
     
  8. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    It leaves two spots but if Harrison and Dungy aren't first-timers in 2014, and the election next month doesn't have Sapp, Strahan, and one of the first-time linemen in it because the voters go Haley, Parcells, Shields, one of the WR and either Ogden or Allen, the top 2014 holdovers would be Ogden or Allen, Sapp, Strahan and the two wide receivers. And all 10 holdovers from last year were finalists this year, so it is safe to assume the same would carry over.

    I think, based on voting, the only first-time lock for 2015 to get in is Seau. Jones is next in line but with what the voters have done to linemen the last five years, making guys like Roaf, Shields and probably either Ogden or Allen wait, I could see Jones waiting -- especially because the only other first-timer with Favre is Terrell Owens. So Jones waiting a year to ease the current finalists seems likely.
     
  9. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    No argument here with that analysis. Still think Warner's in, though.
     
  10. CD Boogie

    CD Boogie Well-Known Member

    These congestion problems could be solved if they moved offensive linemen to their own Hall. Maybe they could move Jan Stenerud over there, too.
     
  11. Versatile

    Versatile Active Member

    Versatile's power rankings of the left tackles who starred in the late 1990s and early 2000s:

    1. Jonathan Ogden
    2. Willie Roaf
    3. Walter Jones
    4. Orlando Pace
    5. Tony Boselli
    6. Willie Anderson
    7. Chris Samuels
    8. Tarik Glenn

    I'd say Pace is the cutoff for the Hall of Fame.
     
  12. YGBFKM

    YGBFKM Guest

    Dungy as a first-timer would be a joke.
     
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