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2014 NFL off-season thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Mizzougrad96, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Roethlisberger and Eli Manning are locks, too.
     
  2. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I also think Rodgers is nowhere close to being a lock. He's been a starter for six seasons.
     
  3. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    I never said he did.
    I said he spent his prime in that offense.
    Let's comprehend the words we are reading.
     
  4. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    I'd vote Rodgers in over Eli and Roethlisberger in a second.
     
  5. Morris816

    Morris816 Member

    To answer the question of Romo vs. Eli: I'll take Romo because Romo shows more consistency in terms of overall game performance.

    Eli is one of those quarterbacks who can have a really good game one week and then disappear the next. For all the talk about Romo and the "he cost them the game" narrative, you see more instances of Romo playing well over a series of games, even if he's the popular guy to use for the "one play decides a football game" narrative.

    As far as the HOF goes, Romo has a good case, but he's not a lock. I suspect he doesn't get in because he's not a "first ballot" HOFer and the rule of thumb with voters these days seems to be "if you are a QB who doesn't get in the HOF on the first ballot, then you aren't a HOFer."

    Oh, and I wouldn't put Eli in the HOF, Super Bowl rings or not.
     
  6. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    Rings matter, and I get that, but Eli's never been an All-Pro, and probably has never received a MVP vote. The Giants have also been very inconsistent.

    Roethlisberger probably has a better non-Super Bowl resume.

    It doesn't help that Eli was one of the worst starters in the NFL last season.
     
  7. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    Stat-wise, Eli Manning is basically Jim Kelly with two Super Bowl rings.

    Plus, he plays in New York City. That counts extra.
     
  8. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it's hard to argue with rings and stats, but Kelly was considered a better player in his day than Eli Manning is considered today.
     
  9. joe king

    joe king Active Member

    Hey, watch it. I'll come after you for plagiarism:

     
  10. MisterCreosote

    MisterCreosote Well-Known Member

    I'd say Warner is closer to Aaron Rodgers.

    Either way, Warner is clearly better than both Eli and Kelly.
     
  11. RecoveringJournalist

    RecoveringJournalist Well-Known Member

    So much of it is about the ring, but if I was a voter, I would ask myself, "Was this guy ever a top 5 QB in the league?" Roethlisberger is a maybe. Eli Manning is a definite no.

    It's not an absolute, because QBs like Ken Anderson, Steve McNair, Boomer Esiason won MVPs and they're not getting into Canton, but for most of Eli Manning's career, he's been a good, not great QB.
     
  12. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Tony Romo has a career 101.1 quarterback rating in the fourth quarter, with 66 TD and 27 INT.
    That's higher than Brady, both Mannings, Roethlisberger, Brees and Rivers.
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000365257/article/buckys-best-drew-brees-heads-nfls-most-clutch-quarterbacks

    http://thelandryhat.com/2014/07/18/tony-romo-loser-choker-dont-cowboys-win/

    The haters' myths simply don't bear water.
    Tony Romo Sucks = ESPN Hot Take.
     
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