2014 Pro Football Hall of Fame Finalists

You keep telling me how upset I get about stuff when I actually spend the vast majority of time on here laughing -- or at least chuckling.

Meanwhile, you call people names and tell them they're banned from reading your posts.

I do have to tell you your stuff amuses me more than most.

But hey, what do I know? I'm only Joe King, right?

 

And it's why Andre Reed has made it in, Tim Brown is still a finalist and Sterling Sharpe and Herman Moore are not.

 

If WR's numbers are skewed because the league is now a passing league, why aren't numbers from backs who played in the running game era viewed in the same manner?

Why are QB/WR numbers who play in passing system looked down upon but a runningback like Jerome Bettis, whose numbers were boosted because he played in a run dominant system, not?

 

Thank you, I am here to clown around.
But I play it straight on the pro football threads.
I will acknowledge Brown had some dud quarterbacks throwing to him half his career.
But so did James Lofton and there was not nearly as much resistance to his candidacy.

 

Part of it is the changes in the game. The rules have changed dramatically to favor the passing game, starting in the late '70s, with even more modifications since then. The game is easier for quarterbacks and wide receivers than it was in the '70s. I don't think you can say that about running backs.

 

Well, once more, I am not lobbying to put Tim Brown in the Hall. I'm simply saying you can't just dismiss a player's performance and statistics because he didn't play on a playoff team.

 

Brown played in three conference title games and a Super Bowl.
Should have been a fourth AFC Championship without Tuck Rule bullshit.
That's more bites of the apple than a few of his more worthy peers.
I reject that he played for crappy teams his whole career.

 

Come on now. Sayers was a once-in-a-generation talent. Surely you don't believe that Sharpe or any of the players being discussed right now are in that class, do you? If Sayers was not in the HOF, I could see why, but I have no problem with him being in either. He was tremendous and was the most feared player in the game until he was hurt.

 

So was Dwight Gooden.

 

OK, wait, so then what was your whole "What do all the receptions and yards mean?" thing all about?

 

I asked respectfully for a contextual reading of Brown.
We know what Irvin's numbers mean, even Carter's (possession receiver), etc.
I wish I could find a breakdown of how many first downs the wideouts at hand produced.
We need more than receptions, yards, touchdowns and yards per.