2014 Pro Wrestling Thread

Except that Austin wasn't really screwed over by Vince until he won the title and Vince kept trying to get the belt off of him. They'd had a few confrontations, but the feud didn't really kick into high gear until Austin confronted Tyson.

 

I, for one, don't expect the WWE to do the right thing. I'm not getting my hopes up on anything. It's fun to discuss. I hope they do it but I don't necessarily think they will. Regardless, I like the fact that I'm only going to be paying 10 bucks for it even if it sucks. Easier pill to swallow.

 

I don't know if this is a spoiler in the traditional sense, but we can't do teeny-tiny type and all the color options will still let it be seen, so those of delicate spoiler sensitivities should scroll down a good ways until they see someone else's post.

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And here's the spoiler:



Batista apparently did turn heel at tonight's Smackdown tapings, and squashed Dolph Ziggler to prove his heelishness.

Now they have to get Bryan in the match, find another face to put in there (Sheamus? Reigns if he turns? Do whatever thing they have to do to get CM Punk back?), do a quick turn of Orton or push the match below HHH-Bryan and Taker-Lesnar, or they're going to have trouble putting two heels in the main event when they're not the Shield and the Wyatts.

Shield-Wyatts II was announced for Raw, so bad news in that it probably won't be a WM match, but good news in that it'll exist.

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... oh god they're putting Cena in the title match and having him win aren't they.

 

Yes, you can put teeny-tiny font size. There I did it for you

 

I'm still holding out the slightest of hope CM Punk returns next Monday and gets inserted in the title match.

It is Chicago after all.

 

Ah. I though the smaller fonts were disabled because all I saw was 8-pt or higher on the pulldown menu. Now I know something.

 

You just have to adjust it yourself in the code by switching to a smaller number.

 

I keep reading comments on various sites about how they should put this guy or that guy in the title match. If the Internet had its way, we'd have a 16-way elimination match for the title.
Batista-Orton, even with a heel Batista, is a trainwreck waiting to happen. WWE seems to know this. They're doing everything they can to salvage it on the fly -- trying to make Batista a face vs. smarmy heel Del Rio, then just flipping him to heel -- but ultimately they'll either have to throw a third (or fourth, or fifth, or sixth ...) guy in there or bury the match so far down the card that it becomes a throwaway.
I think the only way they salvage this thing, as is, is if Batista realizes what's going on, decides to give a shit again, and recreates some of his heel persona from his last run. Anything short of that, and you can pencil this thing in as a Gooker Award lock next January.

 

If we're really trying to salvage Batista-Orton as the main event, I think there's only one way to do it and it will never happen: you turn Randy Orton face.
I mean, full-on, to hell with Batista face and you let him win.
The storyline would have to revolve around Orton trashing Batista and trying to get the crowd on his side (I.E, shit on him for being a part-timer, for having no cardio, for being terrible in the ring). You'd basically have to ruin any chance of ever salvaging Batista again.
Do I think they could do it? I suppose. But there's still going to be, conservatively, 70 percent of the Mania crowd that will shit on this match regardless of how its presented.

 

They can do it in character by having the Authority finally dump him and go with Batista as the Face of WWE and the champion in a shock ending on Raw. Which really is how they should have turned him heel, instead of a Smackdown promo. Have him then explain himself on the next show by talking about how he realized the fans don't matter, what matters is playing the game and making the money, and Orton was stupid for not realizing the opportunity he had laid before him. Then Orton gets to be the psycho angry guy who wants to take down the machine, and the fans support him because he's not Batista and he's not Triple H.

Otherwise, heel-heel dynamics are difficult in the best of circumstances to pull off (yes, Shield-Wyatts, but that's more a matter of everyone shitting themselves over awesome factions with awesome workers and characters butting heads. Randy Orton and Batista ain't Bray Wyatt and Roman Reigns).

 

I've said this before but I don't think Orton gets enough credit. When booked properly, he is just as capable of carrying a storyline and feud as anyone in the company.
I feel like the general consensus to this entire debate by the IWC is "Well, we don't mind Orton but F** Batista!!!!"

 

The Shield were functionally faces for the Wyatt-Shield match.