2014 World Series thread

Steak Snabler · Oct 30, 2014

Big Circus said:

exmediahack said:

LongTimeListener said:

You guys can weigh in on Andrelton Simmons, but Crawford has arguably the strongest shortstop arm in the league. That play at the plate would not have been close.

If there's one thing to wonder with Ned, it's maybe pinch-hitting for Perez. Willingham, possibly?

Also having Escobar bunt when Bumgarner was struggling to find his groove. That helped.
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Or Aoki (twice!), who has as many hits vs. Bumgarner as I have -- but with 18 more at-bats.

Perez had been hitting the ball okay of late but he swings at everything. I'm actually more disappointed in Hosmer and Moustakas, who brought out their "steroid jerks" to try and tie the game and be heroes late instead of getting the ball in play.

Some of Yost's moves (or lack of) seemed to be out of fear, like a baseball version of Marty Schottenheimer.
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Perez also wasn't getting much out of his lower body after getting hit with the pitch, and "get a base hit at all costs" isn't really his game to begin with. I would have liked to have seen Willingham there.
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Willingham should have hit for Aoki in the 5th (when he was the go-ahead run) or for Moustakas in the 7th. If Bochy wasn't going to pull Bumgarner for a right-hander in the 9th, he certainly wouldn't have done it then.

Steak Snabler · Oct 30, 2014

heyabbott said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

I don't want to start a thread, but does this cement Bochy's Hall credentials?
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He has as many Championships as LaRussa, so Bochy is officially a genius.
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Managers with more championships than Bruce Bochy:

Joe McCarthy .... 7
Casey Stengel ... 7
Connie Mack ... 4
Walter Alston ... 4
Joe Torre .... 4

Dick Whitman · Oct 30, 2014

Steak Snabler said:

Big Circus said:

exmediahack said:

LongTimeListener said:

You guys can weigh in on Andrelton Simmons, but Crawford has arguably the strongest shortstop arm in the league. That play at the plate would not have been close.

If there's one thing to wonder with Ned, it's maybe pinch-hitting for Perez. Willingham, possibly?

Also having Escobar bunt when Bumgarner was struggling to find his groove. That helped.
Click to expand...

Or Aoki (twice!), who has as many hits vs. Bumgarner as I have -- but with 18 more at-bats.

Perez had been hitting the ball okay of late but he swings at everything. I'm actually more disappointed in Hosmer and Moustakas, who brought out their "steroid jerks" to try and tie the game and be heroes late instead of getting the ball in play.

Some of Yost's moves (or lack of) seemed to be out of fear, like a baseball version of Marty Schottenheimer.
Click to expand...

Perez also wasn't getting much out of his lower body after getting hit with the pitch, and "get a base hit at all costs" isn't really his game to begin with. I would have liked to have seen Willingham there.
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Willingham should have hit for Aoki in the 5th (when he was the go-ahead run) or for Moustakas in the 7th. If Bochy wasn't going to pull Bumgarner for a right-hander in the 9th, he certainly wouldn't have done it then.
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He definitely should have hit for Moustakas in that situation. He could have batted 100 times against him, and he wasn't getting on base. I was surprised to see him up there.

bigpern23 · Oct 30, 2014

heyabbott said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

I don't want to start a thread, but does this cement Bochy's Hall credentials?
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He has as many Championships as LaRussa, so Bochy is officially a genius.
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Not until he starts batting his pitchers seventh in the lineup. That would be revolutionary.

LongTimeListener · Oct 30, 2014

bigpern23 said:

heyabbott said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

I don't want to start a thread, but does this cement Bochy's Hall credentials?
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He has as many Championships as LaRussa, so Bochy is officially a genius.
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Not until he starts batting his pitchers seventh in the lineup. That would be revolutionary.
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Bumgarner's next frontier.

poindexter · Oct 30, 2014

Big Circus said:

exmediahack said:

LongTimeListener said:

You guys can weigh in on Andrelton Simmons, but Crawford has arguably the strongest shortstop arm in the league. That play at the plate would not have been close.

If there's one thing to wonder with Ned, it's maybe pinch-hitting for Perez. Willingham, possibly?

Also having Escobar bunt when Bumgarner was struggling to find his groove. That helped.
Click to expand...

Or Aoki (twice!), who has as many hits vs. Bumgarner as I have -- but with 18 more at-bats.

Perez had been hitting the ball okay of late but he swings at everything. I'm actually more disappointed in Hosmer and Moustakas, who brought out their "steroid jerks" to try and tie the game and be heroes late instead of getting the ball in play.

Some of Yost's moves (or lack of) seemed to be out of fear, like a baseball version of Marty Schottenheimer.
Click to expand...

Perez also wasn't getting much out of his lower body after getting hit with the pitch, and "get a base hit at all costs" isn't really his game to begin with. I would have liked to have seen Willingham there.
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Perez looked like shit all night after the HBP. How bad is the backup catcher?

Steak Snabler · Oct 30, 2014

poindexter said:

Big Circus said:

exmediahack said:

LongTimeListener said:

You guys can weigh in on Andrelton Simmons, but Crawford has arguably the strongest shortstop arm in the league. That play at the plate would not have been close.

If there's one thing to wonder with Ned, it's maybe pinch-hitting for Perez. Willingham, possibly?

Also having Escobar bunt when Bumgarner was struggling to find his groove. That helped.
Click to expand...

Or Aoki (twice!), who has as many hits vs. Bumgarner as I have -- but with 18 more at-bats.

Perez had been hitting the ball okay of late but he swings at everything. I'm actually more disappointed in Hosmer and Moustakas, who brought out their "steroid jerks" to try and tie the game and be heroes late instead of getting the ball in play.

Some of Yost's moves (or lack of) seemed to be out of fear, like a baseball version of Marty Schottenheimer.
Click to expand...

Perez also wasn't getting much out of his lower body after getting hit with the pitch, and "get a base hit at all costs" isn't really his game to begin with. I would have liked to have seen Willingham there.
Click to expand...

Perez looked like shit all night after the HBP. How bad is the backup catcher?
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No one knows because he never plays.

LongTimeListener · Oct 30, 2014

Dick Whitman said:

Steak Snabler said:

Big Circus said:

exmediahack said:

LongTimeListener said:

You guys can weigh in on Andrelton Simmons, but Crawford has arguably the strongest shortstop arm in the league. That play at the plate would not have been close.

If there's one thing to wonder with Ned, it's maybe pinch-hitting for Perez. Willingham, possibly?

Also having Escobar bunt when Bumgarner was struggling to find his groove. That helped.
Click to expand...

Or Aoki (twice!), who has as many hits vs. Bumgarner as I have -- but with 18 more at-bats.

Perez had been hitting the ball okay of late but he swings at everything. I'm actually more disappointed in Hosmer and Moustakas, who brought out their "steroid jerks" to try and tie the game and be heroes late instead of getting the ball in play.

Some of Yost's moves (or lack of) seemed to be out of fear, like a baseball version of Marty Schottenheimer.
Click to expand...

Perez also wasn't getting much out of his lower body after getting hit with the pitch, and "get a base hit at all costs" isn't really his game to begin with. I would have liked to have seen Willingham there.
Click to expand...

Willingham should have hit for Aoki in the 5th (when he was the go-ahead run) or for Moustakas in the 7th. If Bochy wasn't going to pull Bumgarner for a right-hander in the 9th, he certainly wouldn't have done it then.
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He definitely should have hit for Moustakas in that situation. He could have batted 100 times against him, and he wasn't getting on base. I was surprised to see him up there.
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I assume Ned was waiting for an RBI situation, but one never presented itself. Also he had to be thinking (as I'm sure we all were) "he can't go forever, we'll get our chance against Casilla."

poindexter · Oct 30, 2014

goalmouth said:

How I wish I was a MLB pitcher with just nominal talent. Facing 99% idiot batters with crazy long swings and a complete lack of fear of striking out, makes a glorified junkballer such as Bumgartner look like Sandy Koufax. It used to be you needed two outstanding pitchers to win it all, SF ran out three straight arms with losing records and still won, barely. That's all we need to know about the decrepitude of baseball specifically and pro sports in general, when any average team can claim a title. This from a diehard baseball fan.
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Tell me the era from baseball's glory days where you would have faced a bullpen like the Royals'.

Tarheel316 · Oct 30, 2014

Dick Whitman said:

Tarheel316 said:

HanSenSE said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

I don't want to start a thread, but does this cement Bochy's Hall credentials?
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Yes.

In 2010, I was so happy they had won one in my lifetime. But now, three in five years? I'm speechless. Nothing special about this bunch, just 25 guys pulling together every night to win a ballgame. Makes all those years freezing my ass off at Candlestick worth it.
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Yes and I think he was already a lock. This run has just been incredible. There's something about Bochy. You just feel like he's going to manage the Giants through anything. Even during that awful 5-18 slump, he remained steady at the helm of the ship.
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What made you think so at the time? Seems like an easy thing to say now, hindsight being 20/20.
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Not really. Based on winning the World Series in 2010 and 2012, there was a pretty good track record. The regular season is a marathon. It's all about getting to October and fortunately the Giants banked enough wins earlier in the season that they were able to get that second wild card. From everything I saw this season, Bochy kept a steady hand, win or lose.

Dick Whitman · Oct 30, 2014

Tarheel316 said:

Dick Whitman said:

Tarheel316 said:

HanSenSE said:

3_Octave_Fart said:

I don't want to start a thread, but does this cement Bochy's Hall credentials?
Click to expand...

Yes.

In 2010, I was so happy they had won one in my lifetime. But now, three in five years? I'm speechless. Nothing special about this bunch, just 25 guys pulling together every night to win a ballgame. Makes all those years freezing my ass off at Candlestick worth it.
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Yes and I think he was already a lock. This run has just been incredible. There's something about Bochy. You just feel like he's going to manage the Giants through anything. Even during that awful 5-18 slump, he remained steady at the helm of the ship.
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What made you think so at the time? Seems like an easy thing to say now, hindsight being 20/20.
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Not really. Based on winning the World Series in 2010 and 2012, there was a pretty good track record. The regular season is a marathon. It's all about getting to October and fortunately the Giants banked enough wins earlier in the season that they were able to get that second wild card. From everything I saw this season, Bochy kept a steady hand, win or lose.
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OK. What did he do to give you that impression? What indicated his "steady hand"?

Songbird · Oct 30, 2014

The '89 A's scored a whopping 61 more runs than the '14 Royals: 712 to 651.

The '98 Yanks played Steroids Ball and scored 965.

The '75 Reds scored 840, or 44 more than the '75 Sox.

The '14 Angels led the AL with 773 runs yet couldn't even win one playoff game against the shit-ass no-scoring Royals.

The '14 Orioles were 6th in the AL with 705 runs yet couldn't even win one playoff game against the no-hitting mamsy-pamsy Royals.

It's all relative.

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