2015-16 NBA Thread (feat. the Wives)

Goddam I hate back tracking. I could have sworn I read comments where he made comments about the injuries his team suffered as a reason for the loss. I can't. Perhaps it was his cryptic comments about Steph's MVP honors that made me think of that.

 

My point is that the Delladova move was one direct shot, nothing before it. The two Green shots (Adams kick and LBJ, I'm not recalling the first Adams shot) had more complexity, they are reactions which could reasonably lead to contact that is inadvertent, especially the last one.

Yeah I'm a fanboi, not a big admission and I'll own it. Big deal. I'm not pretending to be otherwise.

 

It takes no smarts at all to see that Draymond Green can be goaded into doing stupid stuff. That's age-old strategy against a hothead.

As for trying to influence the call, hell yeah! Who doesn't?

I'll wait for @qtlaw to explain how this one is different. In March 2015, the Clippers' Dahntay Jones bumped into Green during a postgame interview. Green said:

"If he gets suspended, they may not even notice. So I guess good bump-by, but I definitely expect to be reviewed by the NBA."

Draymond Green rips Dahntay Jones after Jones bumps him during postgame interview

Clearly this lobbying of the league is something only LeBron does.

 

Dellavedova swiped in the direction of the ball. If you're giving Green the benefit of the doubt, you have to give Dellavedova it too.

(For the record, I am not giving Dellavedova the benefit of the doubt.)

 

I'll be upfront that I barely tolerate Golden State more than the Cavs, because otherwise it seems like I'm playing both sides of the field.

But if you're contention is that Green is a hot-headed dipshit and you're defending LeBron's actions against him, it seems like circular logic to hearken back to Green's behavior in 2015 to justify LeBron's now unless you're trying to argue that both are immature babies.

 

I have to say I think it's really weird that LeBron takes offense to being called a bitch because he has kids. Like, it's OK to call guys a bitch, but not if they have a family/have a proven ability to reproduce heterosexually?

 

I was mostly doing it to counter qtlaw's ridiculous notion that LeBron is charting some new ground by lobbying the league.

But LeBron wasn't at risk of anything. A meaningless fine, OK, but there was no penalty that would keep him out of the game tonight. I don't know if he was that calculating in the moment. If he was, it would be par for the course -- get the other guy to take himself out of the game. And it worked.

To think Green's hand just ended up there because that's how he was pulling himself up off the floor is either hopelessly naive or an attempt to blame LeBron because people don't like him.

 

Damn, where is it that I'm saying LBJ is "charting new ground?" Its new ground for a "great" to do it, that was my limiter. (go ahead and throw in your adjectives and adverbs to characterize my posts, but those are just your own filler that avoid the facts).

For the record, my take is that it was perfectly reasonable for Green's hand to end up near his sack because I find it reasonable to hit someone who's stepping over my head to say "get the f*ck off" (not because he's pulling himself off the floor". That's the standard I think that should apply.

 

I'm usually a huge LeBron defender, but even I'll freely admit he's a whiner and flopper.

 

Do you not think Draymond Green is a great player?

 

IMHO he's not there yet, great is a 5-10 yr run at the top. So is Curry then not great yet? Close but if he blew a knee tomorrow, he'd be like Terrell Davis. (Or were you just being snarky?)

 

I'm just trying to understand why it's OK for Draymond Green to say the league should review an incident for the purposes of suspending an opponent, but it isn't OK for LeBron to say it.