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2015-16 NBA Thread (feat. the Wives)

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Songbird, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Easy not to foul when you're not legitimately guarding guys. I'm not following your logic that his rebounding numbers somehow validate him as a defender. Rebounding and defending are different things. Yes, he's an excellent rebounder, but NO, he's long been considered one of the league's worst when it comes to actually guarding people. One of the easiest bigs in the league to score on down low, offers no rim protection capability, and too damn slow to defend out on the perimeter.
     
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  2. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    I thought this Wojo piece offered some solid insight. This gist is Lebron's been blatantly maneuvering toward this move since the first day he returned to Cleveland. It just took awhile to finally get the trigger pulled.
     
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  3. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    David Lee consistently averaged between nine and 11 rebounds in his prime, and he was the worst defensive big man in the NBA. He was so awful that a professor presented to the MIT sports conference on just how awful he is.

    Defense and rebounding definitely aren't the same thing.
     
  4. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    If you and Stoney want to consider rebounding a separate skill from defense, I'm fine with that. (Not being flippant - I'm fine with it, promise!) I definitely agree that he's not a good rim defender or anything, but I've always thought he was just OK on defense, as opposed to horrible.
     
  5. HanSenSE

    HanSenSE Well-Known Member

    Mark Jackson raises a big red flag though. One of the issues when the Warriors axed him was Jackson not relocating to the Bay area, spending his off time and off days with his church in SoCal. Cleveland?
     
  6. JimmyHoward33

    JimmyHoward33 Well-Known Member

    I find the idea that LeBron would care about the money going to Klutch agency from a coaches salary to be a huge stretch. That has to be peanuts to him.
     
  7. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Well-Known Member

    What was the reaction to Avery Johnson?
     
  8. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    You act like this is some odd and novel position we're taking. It's not. Rebounding and defending simply ARE different things. There've been plenty of excellent rebounders who can't guard anyone. If a guy pulls 12 boards but the man he's assigned to guard gets 30 pts because he's being given lots of space and wide open shots all night ...well, he didn't exactly play a good defensive game.
     
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  9. heyabbott

    heyabbott Well-Known Member

    It was almost universally acknowledged that Deron Williams was responsible, even though he denied it. And Barkley and Shaq and Smith called Williams on it. And Billy King fired Avery.
    Most people understand that this was an anti-Semitic action from LeBron and his apostles The Chosen One clearly is a Jew hater
     
  10. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    James is so much better than Jordan.
     
  11. Michael_ Gee

    Michael_ Gee Well-Known Member

    You could make up a pretty fair All-Time team of superstars who got coaches fired through their words, deeds or both. You start with Jordan, James, Wilt and Magic.
     
  12. 93Devil

    93Devil Well-Known Member

    Not this late in their careers.
     
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