2015 Baseball HOF ballot released

Jay Dunn, on a 10-man ballot, gives our first known NOMAR! and Sheffield votes. And the best part is he dropped Bagwell AND Raines to do it! He also voted for Lee Smith and McGriff.

Jack McCaffery gives us the first-known and ever popular Pete Rose write-in.

 

listed weights are a sham and yes Biggio weighed more than 185.

But I'm sure you believe Prince Fielders listed weight.

 

Guesswork, lol.

Nobody over the years has been made to look a bigger fool than you when it comes to PED's, going all the way back to Creamora.

 

Right, because Biggio was a giant fat fuck like Fielder.

I don't believe the listed weights, but I'd be surprised if Biggio ever got up over 200.

Obviously, that doesn't mean he didn't use, but it's easy to understand that if he did, he might be able to do it under the radar. Hell, Bagwell put on an insane amount of muscle and looked like a mini McGwire at some points in his career and he was under the radar as well.

 

Is that what I said?

Is 200 the same as 185? I also said I didn't give a fuck who used and who didn't.

If I had to guess i would guess he did, along with his buddies Caminitti and Bagwell and a host of others. Again, I'm not punishing any of them because I wouldn't hold any of it against them.

 

I worked with Dunn -- sat within spitting distance for 5 years -- and he's the one who omitted Rickey Henderson the first time because of that playoff game in 2000, when he was pulled in the 6th inning (not sure if that's the exact moment) and went into the locker room to play cards or something instead of staying in the dugout to "support the team" during such a big moment. That's the only reason he voted against Rickey the first year he was eligible. Insanity at its finest.

That said, Jay is as Old School as Old School gets. Pitcher wins are his most important stat for determining Cy Young.

Would drive me mad when we discussed it and he refused to budge an inch in his beliefs.

 

Interesting, Biggio is listed at 180 as a rookie in 1989, amazing who only gained 5 pounds over the almost 20 years he played.

 

Unlike his first baseman who showed up at spring training in the mid 90s looking like he gained 30 pounds of muscle during the off-season.

 

Not even close to the same thing, but you are far more interested in attacking me than making sense at this point. That is proof by the dig you took at me while discussing the subject with Guy.

Even better was your last post, suggesting that it is odd if Biggio only put on five pounds in nearly 20 years. So the steroid pseudo-sleuths such as yourself argue that a guy must be using if he put on too much weight during his career, but he must be lying if he claims he didn't put on enough? For a guy who claims he doesn't give a fuck who used and who did not, you sure spend a lot of time arguing about the topic and twisting yourself into rhetorical knots trying to back up accusations where no evidence exists.

 

It was sarcasm. Of course he didn't just put 5 pounds on.

Do you have a sarcasm detector?

Now go put your wookie costume on and piss off Pavlov.

 

An educated guess is still a guess. You should know that, but you tend to forget it whenever it becomes convenient for you to do so.

Regarding the other claim, the really funny part is you probably believe what you are shoveling.

 

Ryan Braun