2015 Pro Wrestling Thread

Haven't read the latest one, but have the first two and both were very, very good. The first one was better than the second, but both are worth picking up.

 

Destoying Ambrose? No reason why he should've gone over Ambrose?

I'm not the biggest John Cena fan in the world, but gimme a break ...

If anything, that match helped elevate and rebuild Ambrose, who has been floundering since Bray Wyatt.

 

The second book had some hilarious stories. The one about what Kane said to him at Survivor Series 2002 had me laughing so hard.

I did find that the organization left a lot to be desired. He'd be talking about one event, mix it with something from the future, then he talks about something else that happens before the previous event. Then I was left really disappointed in that I don't believe he mentioned the big Christian feud at all. That was one of the topics I was most looking forward to Jericho talking about and I can't recall if he even mentioned that he faced Christian at WM 20.

 

Well, I'm not a dummy, but I bought all three books and enjoyed them immensely. Jericho's a guy who worked in a whole bunch of places, in a business that's had more than it's share of crazy stuff happening, and then got his foot into the music business, which has had more than it's share of crazy stuff happening, and branched out into other entertainment projects. So yeah, there was a lot of material to mine there.

 

I guess. Maybe I'm wrong in thinking a guy that's probably not even 40 years old should be able to tell his life story in 350 pages.

 

He's 44 and wrestled all over the world.

So yeah, he's got some pretty damn good stories to tell.

 

When's the last time Dean Ambrose actually won a match? I can't remember. And he was one of the hottest stars in all of WWE at this time last year.

Point is, he needs a win way more than Cena does. They need new and believable main eventers. They have one in Rollins. Ambrose should be another, but he's not because they keep putting him in situations like this.

 

When I saw Sheamus on Monday, I immediately tweeted: The Celtic Rooster and Cock-a-doodle-Brogue!

He did indeed look stupid but loved his reaction to it.

 

So he needs a win since he's been on a losing streak ... therefore, let's have him beat the main eventer who just won the title over a guy who hadn't been pinned/submitted? Hotshotting a title they are trying to build back up?

This goes back to your original post ... you thought Cena buried Ambrose last night? Did you watch the same match I did? Ambrose was elevated in defeat, not buried. Ambrose beating Cena for the U.S. Title last night would be the equivalent of Eric Young winning the TNA title like he did ... treated like an afterthought and all-of-a-sudden a titleholder. That would've been a TNA thing to do.

It's called a slow-build, something the E hasn't shown in recent years. How does one become a believable main eventer? Put him in competitive matches with main eventers and build a program. So what would've happened if Ambrose did win? Well, the chase is over already. Isn't the storyline better with Ambrose chasing the belt? The chase is the core lesson of Booking 101.

I know it's "cool" to sing "John Cena sucks!" all the time and the IWC hates everything that relates to someone who's been on the top for years, but to say that match hurt Ambrose isn't looking at the big picture.

 

I'll also defend it - The third book is pretty solid, and better than the second. I'm a mark for Jericho, but he's also a unique guy as far as the business goes, given that he's essentially wrestling short stints to elevate other talent now. The book is written in his promo style, which helps give it some energy.

 

Observer from March 30 (done before Mania):

- With the Aguayo Jr. death, it was about 70 seconds between when the wrestlers realized something was wrong, to the rushed end of the match. Another 80 seconds after that, medical help (a doctor in the audience, paramedics) arrived. There was a doctor staffing the show, but he was in the back, helping a wrestler who was hurt in the opening matches. It took the paramedics and the doctor six minutes to get Aguayo Jr. into the back.

In the back, he was put on to a stretcher and gotten to a nearby hospital quickly, because it was only six blocks away. WWE is pretty much the only promotion large enough to have a dedicated doctor / medical staff for all shows, so, it’s likely AAA wasn’t negligent as compared to other indy promotions.

It was initially believed that Aguayo Jr. died from whiplash in the ring, but he did have vital signs at the hospital. He suffered cervical spine trauma toward the top of his spine, near his brain, which led to a cervical stroke. This led to a weakening of his internal organs, and heart failure. An autopsy and drug testing are scheduled. Both Konnan and Mysterio Jr. were pallbearers at Aguayo Jr.’s funeral, and the death is seen as a freak sports accident to the family and in most of the Mexican media.

- Lesnar’s three-year deal is for more money, but it’s also believed to be for more dates. Fun fact: His wife is Rena Mero, a.k.a. Sable, 47. Lesnar is 37, and they started dating after she split from Mero in 2004.

UFC gave him a final offer on March 24, right before he was scheduled to be on ESPN, and it was believed to be worth the range of his yearly WWE contract ($5M range) for a single fight. However, it’s believed he chose WWE because it’ll allow him to maintain his health better in the long term.

- Alberto Del Rio may or may not have a torn triceps. He’s been cancelling some dates because of an injury, but managing to work some others. Since the injury wasn’t seen in any of his dates, it’s believed he may have suffered it while training for MMA. He’s charging $5,000 for indie dates, partially to keep away smaller promotions.

- The Laredo Kid, who was on the card and hurt in an earlier match on the Aguayo Jr. show, is expected to be getting a WWE tryout soon. On that night, he dove from a balcony to the entranceway with a full body splash, hurting his knees and hands.

- TNA Impact is doing badly so far, with their recent show doing 403k viewers and 143k on the replay. This was up from an all-time low of 338k the previous week. The show’s audience is also 77 percent male, which is significantly higher than the 65 to 70 percent male audience for UFC and WWE. The average viewer age is 54, well above what Smackdown and Bellator did on Fridays.

- Wrestle-1 (Japan) will not be bringing in TNA talent now, since they have enough foreigners and are losing money as is.

- Samoa Joe was on Talk is Jericho the other week, and the interview is summarized. Joe still isn’t taking any indy dates past late April, so, it’s believed he’ll be in WWE in some fashion after that point. Joe also notes that he didn’t like much of the booking in TNA, but he didn’t want to fight with Russo, calling it a fight he would lose. He said TNA losing the Spike contract pushed him over the edge when it came to renewal. He also called the loss of AJ Styles a big blow.

- Jeff Jarrett’s Global Force Wrestling has a show in the summer in Vegas, but nothing else planned. Apparently, he’s been unsuccessful in securing a TV contract.

- Kurt Angle has an interview with Ariel Helwani, and said his contract is a one-year deal for 40 dates. TNA also extended Bobby Lashley, Robbie E and Bram. Homicide is out until August at least, because he needs rotator cuff surgery.

- Lesnar vs. The Rock has been pitched for Mania 32, but it’s unclear if The Rock’s schedule will allow it. That was the original plan for Mania 30, but Rock’s injury made it a non-starter. It’s believed that for 32 in Cowboys Stadium, they want to set an attendance record, and will make a hard push for any legend they can get (excluding Ric Flair) to hit the number.

 

No, I just turn the channel whenever Cena is on. I don't care for the "IWC" either. I just know that Cena has been on top for a decade and has rarely, if ever, truly put someone over, so fuck him.

The time for Ambrose to chase a "main eventer" for some shitty title no one cares about was last year. He should be neck and neck with Rollins at this point.

Just one man's opinion. I can always stop watching.