2019 MLB Regular Season running thread

Gregorius played for the D-backs before being traded to the Yanks.

Shocker also had a lot of years with the Browns before finishing his career (and ultimately dying the next year) with the Yankees.

Also, can we really consider players to be “homegrown” back in 1927? A lot of them just joined their local minor league team, played well, had their contracts sold to other minor league teams , and eventually the Yankees would pay the minor league team for the contract. The minor league system we know of today was just starting up in the 20s and teaching was non-existent. It was survival of the fittest.

 

I understand your point, and don't totally disagree. But Glasnow's strand rate right now is an insane 92 percent. That ERA is going to come up pretty significantly, I'd bet.

And I don't think you can take as a given that he'd be having this success in Pittsburgh. He's ditched the slider completely and doubled his curveball usage. He's pitching in a significantly different manner than he did in Pittsburgh and I don't think you can say he would have made those changes with the Pirates.

 

I think the safer bet is to assume he would get there than to assume he wouldn't. Glasnow was an elite prospect and he really didn't get much of a shot in the majors with the Pirates. The point is, the Cole deal set off the chain of events that led to them sending Glasnow away too soon and packaging him with Meadows, another top prospect who had shown flashes at the major-league level. They overpaid in talent for Archer because he has a team-friendly contract. They only made the move at all because they had given away their ace two years before he was going to be a free agent.

The story keeps repeating because teams know they can take advantage of the Pirates. They will always dump the contract, even if they can't get the value they want. They've been proving that for a long time.

 

You're mostly right, but the bolded portion is why you can't assume he'd have gotten there with Pittsburgh. Tampa let him play, made some changes with him and he's flourishing. There's no guarantee Pittsburgh would have replicated Tampa's formula, and the evidence suggests the opposite result would have occurred.

 

That’s still a major organizational indictment, because now the question becomes, why?

 

Glasnow was a high first-round pick and an elite prospect. He was going to get his shot in Pittsburgh. Maybe he doesn't make the same adjustments with the Pirates, but to question if he was going to get the same opportunity doesn't make sense.

 

Which why are you talking about? Why did they fail to see the adjustment Glasnow needed to make? Why did they fail to see he still had elite upside? Or why did they trade two young players with elite upside for one talented veteran whose numbers were trending the wrong direction? The last one is as I said, it was a matter of cost control. Archer's team-friendly contract was the driving force behind that deal, a deal they wouldn't have needed if they hadn't traded their ace before the season.

 

Old school v Nerds, part 2,387,534

 

I know it means Kemp was going horseshit. I will say the phrase "batted ball event" says a lot about today's game, little of it good, if hitting the fucking ball in play is now considered unusual enough to be a stat.

 

If someone wrote Kemp is hitting .200 with a .283 slugging percentage and 19 strikeouts in 62 tries, is that acceptable to Chad?

 

It makes perfect sense. The Pirates used him exclusively as a reliever last year. He got traded and the Rays immediately made him a starter. He literally did not get the same opportunity in Pittsburgh. And, no, I'm not convinced he ever would have.