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2022-23 college football coaching carousel

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Sep 19, 2022.

  1. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    No question.
     
  2. Inky_Wretch

    Inky_Wretch Well-Known Member

  3. exmediahack

    exmediahack Well-Known Member

    I believe, if you threw out the Kansas games, he was 15-35 in the Big XII.
     
  4. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Do transfers recruited through the portal count against the limit of 28 scholarships a year?
     
  5. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    They count against total scholarships, not initial counters.
     
  6. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    So, for example, Deion or anyone else, could pull the scholarships of every kid at Colorado and bring in 85 transfers if he wanted to? Which I think would be the basically the plan, given how bad Colorado was. Not everyone but at least half the roster.

    What about jucos? DO they count against the initial counter counter?
     
  7. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    At this point, I’m not sure the compliance officers who make a living understanding all of this have a full grasp. The NCAA is suddenly handing out extra years of eligibility like Mardi Gras beads, and there is some kind of one-time exception for the signing class of 2023 that lets schools sign up to 30 initial counters in some cases to make up for transfer losses. And that’s before getting into things like grayshirts, blueshirts, back counters and other accounting tricks schools routinely use to pick a few extra players into a recruiting class.

    In the specific scenario you cite however, the PAC-12 moved to guaranteed four-year scholarships almost a decade ago. And that kind of wholesale turnover would almost surely drive the Buffs APR score deep into the side of Cheyenne Mountain.
     
  8. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Don't forget all the kids that still have a free COVID year -- they should be entering their senior seasons but have two or three years of eligibility and I believe they don't count against any of the roster limits
     
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  9. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    On a different college football thread, Batman mentioned a kid at Oregon who is coming back for a ninth season. He might be defending his thesis at halftime of the Alamo Bowl at this rate.
     
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  10. PCLoadLetter

    PCLoadLetter Well-Known Member

    Cam McCormick. Kid suffered season-ending injuries in four straight seasons, 2018 to 2021. The '21 injury was an Achilles tear in the second game. He's been granted a ninth year but he hasn't decided if he'll do it.

    He already has a Master's degree.
     
  11. LanceyHoward

    LanceyHoward Well-Known Member

    Do you know how many of the Power Five conferences have guaranteed four year scholarships?

    I also think that Colorado has made the decision to ignore the APR scores. Damn the consequences. Karl Dorrell publically complained that he could only recruit grad transfers and rising freshmen because of the transfer requirements at the university. The various schools within the university would look at the transcripts of the transfers and decide how many credits to grant towards a degree.

    At the press conference where Deion was hired the Chancellor announced that the College of Arts and Sciences, which enrolls 70% of Colorado's undergrads, had changed that policy and grant credit for any course from an accredited school. My understanding is that the practical effect is now Colorado can enroll a transfer who has taken three years of basket weaving classes and enroll him in the School of Arts and Sciences. I can think of no circumstance where this policy change will improve Colorado's APR score.

    I also think that in the new era of mass player movement APR scores will become less important to schools. Coaches think about their next contract. If a coach is exceeding expectations in three years he is getting an extension and a raise at either his current school or somewhere else. If the school loses a couple of scholarships due to low APR a couple extra transfers can be brought in to cover up the manpower gap.

    I listened to a podcast where the point was made that schools that did make adjust transfer policies would be at a serious disadvantage. Are schools like Stanford and Vanderbilt going to loosen their policies?
     
  12. micropolitan guy

    micropolitan guy Well-Known Member

    Like the OU president said many years ago:

    “In Oklahoma, we’re trying to build a university the football team can be proud of.”
     
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