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2024-25 College Basketball Thread

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by dixiehack, Sep 21, 2024.

  1. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    They have a path, yeah, which I didn't think they had coming into the A-10 regular season. It helps that they've just been pasting other A-10 teams, which has helped their metrics because there aren't a ton of absolute dogs in the league this year.

    UMass goes to the MAC next year, which leaves Martin in a weird spot. I don't think he's been incredible there, with his playing time decisions looking quite odd from the outside looking in, but it's hard to imagine he signed up to be coaching a low major squad.
     
  2. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    That is amazing. What a strange trip it's been. Probably only something that can occur in the era of perpetual player freedom.
     
  3. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

  4. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Got our tickets for a piece of the women’s dance in Bham. One Sweet 16 session and one Elite 8.
     
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  5. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Very good at what he does, dating back to his days a couple decades ago at the Daily News
     
  6. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Lunardi has VCU in as an at-large for the first time this morning, in one of the play-in games against Arkanpig. Obviously, everything is contingent on VCU winning out, because any loss in the final five would be Q2 or lower, but yeah, that path is there.

    Totally forgot about UMass going to the MAC in all sports. That's going to be weird.
     
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  7. dixiehack

    dixiehack Well-Known Member

    Presuming the A-10 loses its projected at large this weekend (either VCU takes over first place or suffers a damaging loss) that sends it back to three projected mid-major at large bids (two for the Mountain West, one for the WCC).

    Charlie Creme’s projected women’s bracket is even more stark, with only Harvard getting an at-large from economy class. He does project four non-power league teams just missing the cut, including Princeton as the first one out. Imagine a three-bid Ivy League!
     
  8. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Correct, though a VCU win (and four more after that) would give the Rams a shot should they falter in the A-10 tournament. That's the real importance of them showing up in a projection right now. Mason doesn't have an at-large case.
     
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  9. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    The really interesting one will be Drake. Love the Drake.
     
  10. YMCA B-Baller

    YMCA B-Baller Well-Known Member

    Quad 1 records for teams currently as last four in or first eight out in Lunardi's bracket:
    Vanderbilt 2-8
    Arkansas 3-9
    VCU 1-1
    Wake Forest 2-6
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    Oklahoma 4-8
    SMU 0-4
    Georgia 2-10
    North Carolina 1-10
    Xavier 1-9
    Indiana 3-11
    Boise State 2-5
    Pitt 1-8

    If that's not an indictment of how shit this tournament has become with the deck stacked heavily towards power conference teams, I don't know what is.

    Power teams counter by saying mids don't play anyone. Well, play them then and let them rise or fall on their merits, but the minute a mid-major becomes anything like a threat to actually beat a power team, they become untouchable as far as scheduling is concerned.

    There are exceptions. I admire Alabama for not fearing challenging games against mid-level teams, but most power teams stack the deck in a way that really hurts the tournament.
     
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  11. sgreenwell

    sgreenwell Well-Known Member

    As a fan of a mid-major team, it's really the most frustrating thing. I'm not sure how you "fix" it, unless you just more heavily penalize teams for only playing Q3, Q4 games OOC. Or hell, use a computer algorithm to attempt a "balanced" schedule for each team - You get 3 to 5 games against regional rivals, and the other 8ish or so are randomly spit out based on the previous year.
     
  12. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

    Sorry to harp on VCU, but as one of the few non P5s that have a shot, just wanted to break down their schedule.

    First off, the only way they'll ever get a P5 school to come to Richmond is if said P5 school poaches VCU's coach. That's how they got Texas (Shaka) and LSU (Will Wade) to visit. Penn State has to visit at some point. Virginia too if they pluck Odom this offseason, which is a rumor going around.

    They played Boston College at a neutral site and whooped them, but BC is terrible so that's a Q4 win. They inexplicably lost to Seton Hall in the Charleston Classic, and instead of playing Villanova next and perhaps Drake in the final, they got stuck with Nevada (loss) and Miami (win). Only Miami is plum awful and that win means nothing. They do have a decent neutral win against Colorado State and played New Mexico in a true road game.

    Basketball is by far the biggest money maker at the school, so they can't just go the route of playing a bunch of road games against P5s. They need non-conference home revenue. I remember a story a few years back talking about home scheduling philosophy, and it was better to load up with terrible home teams rather than playing teams in the 76-160 range at home. That's why they play Bellarmine and Merrimack instead of say, ODU and Liberty, which would be much better games and much bigger tests. You don't get much of a bounce by beating a Q3 at home, but you sure as shit will get punished for losing to one. So if you're VCU, you schedule sure wins against Penn and Georgia Southern rather than roll the dice with someone like High Point (87) or UNCW (108). Win gets you minimal gain, a loss is a disaster.
     
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