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30 for 30 running thread

Discussion in 'Anything goes' started by 93Devil, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. Lugnuts

    Lugnuts Well-Known Member

    Yep.. Bingo.
     
  2. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

    Only problem with the "coerced confession" theory is that neither of the defendants have ever claimed any such thing. Instead, the only excuse I've heard for why Moore changed his story was a statement by the narrator in the documentary that Moore said he was "confused" by the chaos of the moment. Sorry, but people don't out of nowhere confess to attempted armed robbery because they're "confused"--especially when they know that statement will likely lead to a murder conviction.

    As for his girlfriend, she did give her version of what happened, and under oath, when she testified at trial that Moore (the shooter) and Dixon held Wilson up at gun point, were trying to rob him, but when Wilson resisted and started fighting back when Dixon started rifling through his pockets, Dixon said to Moore "Let's shoot this punk", to which Moore complied by firing twice into Wilson.

    As for why she didn't consent to an interview for this documentary, it might have something to do with the fact that she moved away from Chicago after Wilson's death, and has avoided virtually all interview requests about this over the years, as she was trying to raise her son far from it. As somewhat of a private person myself, I wholly understand.

    I don't believe for a second the story Moore told in this documentary. I think he and Dixon set out with the intent of robbing people, but gained forever notoriety by choosing the best HS basketball player in the United States as a target. Yet, for whatever reason, the filmmakers here seemed intent on misleadingly selling Moore's bullshit story. They glossed over the facts that tend to discredit his story, and instead presented it as if it was entirely likely and believable.
     
  3. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    I totally disagree. I think you are looking at similarities, three young promising basketball playing African-Americans dying young. The stories about all three are different.
     
  4. turski7

    turski7 Member

    I don't buy Moore's story either. He didn't come off well in the interview about what went down.
    Seems odd that the filmmakers left the girlfriend's testimony out of the movie. They could've used court video (if available) and/or transcripts to counter Moore's claim. If they are going to present the he said, she said angle, use what she said, even if they couldn't get an interview.
     
  5. Double Down

    Double Down Well-Known Member

    Drip was there the night that Gathers died and it was a tragedy and how dare you? He could have been the next Gene Banks, who was also a good kid, he just didn't trust Gary Smith enough to give him the story of his recruitment. What were we talking about again? Oh right, the night Drip had beers with Ben Johnson in Seoul. It was epic.
     
  6. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    Is that the best you can do? What did you accomplish with the post besides getting a response from me?
    The facts are Poin screwed up and I called him on it. I wasn't there when Hank Gathers died and it was enjoyable watching Gary Smith not get Gene Banks' signing. Never had a drink with Ben Johnson in Seoul. Sorry to disappoint.
    Any other stupid stuff you want to post that doesn't involve 30 for 30, send it as a PM.
     
  7. Azrael

    Azrael Well-Known Member

    In my day, performance enhancement was a hot meal. Now shut the fuck up, take it to PMs and have a happy "A hero ain't nothin' but a sandwich day."
     
  8. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    The creator and driving force behind 30 for 30 is a well-known basketball junkie, and it does seem like we've had several "what might have been" basketball docs in the series thus far (the three I mentioned, plus the Chris Herren one last year and you could even throw the Fab Five into that mix).

    I guess socioeconomic conditions lend themselves to this sort of story in basketball, but they exist in other sports, too. Marcus DuPree is widely regarded as among the best in the series thus far, and you'd think someone will dig up Brien Taylor at some point.

    And I'd love to see a 30 for 30 on J.R. Richard, who is shockingly still alive.
     
  9. poindexter

    poindexter Well-Known Member

    Drip drove the ambulance that hurried J.R. Richard to the hospital after his stroke.
     
  10. da man

    da man Well-Known Member

    And have a happy hyperbole day.
     
  11. Drip

    Drip Active Member

    A small-budget movie, Resurrection: The J.R. Richard Story, was made in 2005.
     
  12. Steak Snabler

    Steak Snabler Well-Known Member

    A biopic? I meant a straight documentary.
     
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