30 for 30 running thread

I thought Elway to Marino was one of the best episodes so far. Even more than Pony Excess.

Love how they they rebuilt the 1983 draft room. Made it as a strong crutch for the interviews.

 

I too thought it was the best 30/30. Great quote from Marino on Ken O'Brien - "Who's Ken
OBrien"? Right up there with the quote from LT "Kenny you gotta do better than that" as he slammed him to ground.

For a guy who had a pretty good 10 yr NFL career O'Brien is a real punch line.

 

Gabe Rivera was such a bad decision.

 

I had never heard the tidbit that Elway for Montana was at least floated out there at some point. Really interesting stuff.

Great stuff on Al Davis and the Raiders belief that there was a conspiracy that kept them from getting Elway, too. I'd heard some rumors of that previously but much more insight on this one and quite telling that Demoff agreed with it.

 

So maybe Al Davis wasn't as batshit crazy as we thought? LOL

 

Not in 1983.

By about 2000, Al Davis was clearly on tilt. Nine months after the '83 Draft, they won it all.

 

A case of a great coach unable to think ahead because he confuses great with infallible.

Pat Sullivan (?) certainly hates Tony Eason.

 

Didn't ask, but that was implied.

 

kenny was a victim of taking endless spit over the jets taking him over marino. a shame, 'cause he was a terrific person, one of the best i've been around, and was a terrific passer -- until he took a beating behind a bad line. he was pro bowl calibre until '87; i even remember doing a piece in '86, when the jets were 9-1, supporting the prenise that he might turn out to be thhee class of '83 -- elway had yet to begin performing magic.

unless i missed it the espn show last night ignored the fact that marino's fall down round 1 was precipitated by rumors he was already a cokehead. the farther he dropped, the more teams were scared off that they'd misssed something....

 

They mentioned the drug rumors on Marino. Had a segment with Art Rooney Jr. Told a story about his father calling him to his office, in there were two Pittsburgh PD detectives who investigated Marino and said he was clean. No warrants necessary. I guess in Pittsburgh at that time The Rooneys could get anything they wanted.

 

There were a lot of bad decisions. As an Eagles fan, I remember them taking Michael Haddix at No. 8. Let me repeat that Michael Haddix at No. 8. A fuzzy memory, but remember watching the draft (no life back then, either) and on TV the announcers saying he had never even had a 20-yard run in college (or maybe that was his longest run). How the hell does someone like that go No. 8?

Anyway, that was a very interesting doc. How fortunate that Demhoff kept a journal. I was wondering if they'd bring up the Marino drug rumor and they certainly had no problem doing so.

 

I thought ESPN did a very good job on this, they didn't 'sugar coat' anything.
Elway was terrific, the cuts between him today and his press conferences in '83 were telling and Elway didn't hide from it. He discussed Bradshaw's animosity and Elway felt the Colt's move from Baltimore to Indianapolis vindicated his position that he didn't want to play in Baltimore.

Elway's father looked like the biggest jerk in the whole show