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7 dead, 7 wounded in Santa Barbara shooting rampage

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by mpcincal, May 24, 2014.

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  1. The Big Ragu

    The Big Ragu Moderator Staff Member

    Liberalism is a worldview that is focused on liberty and equality. Conservatism is focused on retaining traditional social institutions. In the days of slavery, yes, it was a conservative position. The abolitionist movement was a liberal movement for its days. Just as the suffrage movement was a liberal movement for its day.

    And no, we are not in one of the most conservative eras today in American history, as Alma said. Our society has obviously liberalized a great deal over the last 200 + years, and it has moved away from a lot of traditional social institutions that we now largely agree infringed on the individual rights that TRUE liberalism puts a premium on.
     
    The Big Ragu, May 28, 2014
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  2. tapintoamerica

    tapintoamerica Well-Known Member

    Dear NRA and Its Apologists:
    This is your guy. This is the person you embrace. Pucker up.
     
    tapintoamerica, May 28, 2014
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  3. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    I'll take a guy unwavering in his Constitutional convictions over a guy who stands on top of his son's dead body for political gain ... Every. Fucking. Day.
     
    old_tony, May 28, 2014
    #387
  4. 3_Octave_Fart

    3_Octave_Fart Well-Known Member

    Many have been neither indicted nor convicted.
    Not exactly winning the hearts and minds abroad or on the homefront, are we.
    More Boots On the Ground to plunder Iraq's national museum than to repel these dingleberry gunmen at home.
     
    3_Octave_Fart, May 28, 2014
    #388
  5. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Every community & movement has low lifes. Compare apples to apples. You can find the biggest piece of trash in the gun control movement, or even better, ignore people like this & match intelligent, honest advocates.
     
    Guy_Incognito, May 28, 2014
    #389
  6. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    You will support a complete lowlife over a grieving father fighting back in memory of his son because the lowlife is part of the political party you cheer for. Once again proving that you are a political fanboy and nothing more.

    I really shouldn't be surprised by this. None of us should given your posting history. That said, you've sunk so low this time that I am actually embarrassed for you.
     
    outofplace, May 28, 2014
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  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Tell it to tony. He is ready to back that disgrace of a human being and criticize the father of one of the victims for standing up and speaking out in what has to be the worst moment of his life.
     
    outofplace, May 28, 2014
    #391
  8. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    Why don't you ask that guy if he would trade having his son back for the political gain he hopes to get from this?
     
    Baron Scicluna, May 28, 2014
    #392
  9. Baron Scicluna

    Baron Scicluna Well-Known Member

    What would the biggest piece of trash in the gun-control movement have to do to sink as low as attacking a father who just lost his son?
     
    Baron Scicluna, May 28, 2014
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  10. Big Circus

    Big Circus Well-Known Member

    Attacked the dead son, too. Called him less than a man. Don't lose sight of that.
     
    Big Circus, May 28, 2014
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  11. Alma

    Alma Well-Known Member

    Fair enough. "Conservative" is the wrong word.

    We're in one of the most libertarian eras of our history.
     
    Alma, May 28, 2014
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  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    But hey, tony has his back.
     
    outofplace, May 28, 2014
    #396
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