7 dead, 7 wounded in Santa Barbara shooting rampage

Yeah, I thought that day was Dec. 14, 2012.

I don't blame Obama for not trying to get something passed, but if someone was going to do something, that was the time to do it.

 

It's hard to imagine a murder spree in 1914? Really?

 

QFT.

 

Come on, man ...

 

That's silly. Mass murders have been a constant throughout history.

 

If you wanna go all reductio here, I can play that game, too.

Would an Elliott Rodger in 1914 have had a harder or an easier time getting his hands on firearms? Alternatively, would an Elliott Rodger in 1914 have had a harder or an easier time getting his hands on enough weaponry to cause an equivalent amount of murder/mayhem?

 

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/militia-slaughters-strikers-at-ludlow-colorado

 

Also instructive here is the apparently common belief that if you lose a family member to some sort of criminal activity, you become infallible and are allowed to blame all kinds of people who had nothing to do with the crime and you are also allowed to call for the elimination of rights for millions and millions of law-abiding citizens. And anyone who dares to have the common-sense position that you shouldn't be blaming the wrong people and calling for the elimination of basic Constitutional rights for the law-abiding is to be threatened with violence and called all kinds of things in personal attacks.

 

It's possible to disagree with the father but do so in a manner that respects his grieving process.

 

Not when the "grieving process" attacks people who had nothing to do with the crime and calls for the senseless elimination of rights for law-abiding people who, again, also had nothing to do with the crime.

It's like having a family member killed by a drunk driver who had 15 vodka/Red Bulls and then blaming General Motors.

 

Have you lost a kid? Have you buried a murdered child? I haven't. I can't imagine how I would cope with it. Therefore, I give the father a pass. It's the decent thing to do.

 

Tony can't hear you, he is wearing his Drunks Against MADD Mothers shirt.