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I mean I think it speaks more to where we are that something all of us would 100 percent be skeptical of 15/20 years so we’re now fine to be plausible because assholes are getting more brazen about it.

 

I'm coming to the slow realization that the big reason conservatives don't like liberals is that for all the free-speech rhetoric thrown around, we don't see anything wrong with shouting anyone down with an opinion different than our own.

(Just like the conservatives themselves, but the point sticks.)

I know I'm as guilty of that as anyone (see earlier Butker post). I think I'm going to try to be a little better on that count.

And I'm going to offer a bit of a flip-flop on Butker. Nobody had those graduates chained to their chairs, and nobody said they had to adopt Harrison Butker's world view. Do I think the college might have vetted their commencement speaker better? Yes, I do. But again ... their call.

 

Free speech does not mean forbearance. Butker is free to say what he thinks and I am free to say I think he's an enormous asshole. If it happens that a majority of voices share my opinion, well, that's part of living in a society with 330 million or so voices.

 

I'm in agreement with that, as far as it goes. I'm only saying I'm going to stop thinking that I have the only answer when billions of Catholics who still observe Traditional Latin Mass believe Butker's view of the family and gender are the ideal. In short, you do you.

 

Are there really billions of Catholics in the world? Seems high. I will also post the addendum that I really don't care at all what Butker thinks, and I'm sure if he'd ever heard of me, he'd feel the same way.

 

This. ^^^

 

Not sure about worldwide, but I can tell you there are way fewer Catholics in America than there used to be 20-25 years ago, for several obvious reasons.

Younger clergy and U.S. Catholics sharing Butker’s views won’t reverse that downward trend.

 

Billion plus.

 

I would suggest that that the percentage of people who state they are Catholic is significantly lower than the percentage of people who have beliefs influenced by their Catholic upbringing.