A-Rod Agonistes

Cano is 24, a .314 life time hitter, 40+ doubles per year and .500 slugging.

I'm guessing a .320, 30, 110 run will be coming in the next 4-6 years.

No way do you trade Cano and Hughes for Santana. Cano for Santana you should probably do, but you are giving up a lot in Cano.

 

Devil actually thinks the Twns would take a mediocre defensive second baseman straight up for the best pitcher in baseball. What a joke.

 

Santana for Cano? Sold. And I'd be willing to throw in Brian Cashman.

 

In 1979, the Phillies went into the free agent market signed a guy named Peter Edward Rose. That signing got them a World Championship. I know A-Rod is a post-season disaster but he's not stupid. He knows that he could smash Bonds' mark by playing at CBP, once he gets used to NL pitching. And I think that may be what will keep him out of Philly. That and having Scott Boras as an agent.
With A-Rod, the Phils could conceivably have a sellout every night.
That would defray the cost of getting him.
But again, they do need pitching help, badly.

 

Pitchers get hurt more often than position players.

I like having the sure thing.

How did this trade work out?

Milt Pappas with Jack Baldschun and Dick Simpson to the Cincinnati Reds for Frank Robinson.

That trade jumped to mind when looking at a big established pitcher for an established hitter deal.

Can anyone think of any others?

I think it would be interesting to look through the last 35 years or so to see how it worked out.

 

First off, the timing of the Robinson trade was crucial. Frank was getting older and there was a thought that his career was winding down. Few questioned that trade. The questions came after Robinson had the great season in Baltimore and the others didn't pan out. Milt Papas was an outstanding pitcher in his day.

 

Frank Robinson was a Hall of Famer in the prime of his career--age 30 at the time of the trade -- and one of the best hitters ever in baseball. Robinson Cano will never be half the player Robby was.

Milt Pappas was a decent not great pitcher, not a two-time Cy Young Award winner ...nowhere near Santana.

Jack Baldschun was a journeyman at best and Dick Simpson was a nobody

 

Boots, he was 29 when he was traded, and he was three years removed from an MVP season.

I actually took a few minutes to research this, and what I noticed was that established hitters are very rarely traded. If they are, it's for another hitter. Pitcher for hitter seems to happen in huge multi-player and team deals, or if the team is trading a ton of prospects away for the pitcher.

I never noticed that until I researched the top hitters/pitchers. Interesting.

 

If I remember correctly, the Reds thought that Robinson's skills were fading, that's why they made the deal

 

Cincy traded Frank Robbie because of his age . . . because the idiot GM thought the world-class player in question was about to swirl right down the toilet, almost-solely because of what the calendar said.

Remarkable.

Unbelievable.

 

Does Boras do interviews or does he just call up certain writers and make proclamations?

I'd dearly love to hear him explain how ARod's last 4 post season performances can not affect his value.