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AL and NL MVPs

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Aug 24, 2014.

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  1. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    Lucroy is way, way better in the clutch.

    RISP, 2 OUTS
    Gomez .238/.324/.302 (.626 OPS)
    Lucroy .319/.418/.447 (.865 OPS)

    LATE & CLOSE
    Gomez .236/.286/.361 (.647 OPS)
    Lucroy .328/.444/.642 (1.086 OPS)

    No question about who the Brewers' MVP is if you go that route.

    But I don't know how Dino Laurenzi feels about Ragin' Cajuns and whether he is setting his trap right now.
     
    LongTimeListener, Aug 24, 2014
    #13
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Close, but Gomez is better. Comparable hitters until you get to speed, where Gomez has a huge edge.
     
    outofplace, Aug 24, 2014
    #14
  3. Moderator1

    Moderator1 Moderator Staff Member

    Fister and Roark have been better than expected, but neither is the best pitcher in the league let alone the MVP. No one is having a monster year but they have a lot of guys having very good years. Their pitching has been consistently good (save for the two guys who are supposed to be their best starters) and the offense is to the point where there's no real hole.

    The league MVP is not on the Nationals' roster. Desmond may have 25 HR and 100 RBI when it is done and he's a damn good shortstop, but I sure as hell can't argue for him for MVP.
     
    Moderator1, Aug 24, 2014
    #15
  4. qtlaw

    qtlaw Well-Known Member

    Zoilo Versailles on park 1.
     
    qtlaw, Aug 25, 2014
    #16
  5. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    His steal percentage of 75% is not nearly good enough for a speed guy. And that's not even taking into account the other bone-head baserunning mistakes he makes. He has the tools to be great, but he is not anywhere near there yet, and he's not anywhere near an MVP yet.
     
    old_tony, Aug 25, 2014
    #17
  6. cranberry

    cranberry Well-Known Member

    Versailles was a deserving MVP. The Twins took an interesting route to their first World Series. Killebrew dislocated his elbow in 1965 and as a 25-year-old Zorro led the AL with a 5.3 WAR. He was also first in doubles, triples and third in stolen bases as well as an outstanding defender at shortstop.
     
    cranberry, Aug 25, 2014
    #18
  7. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    More deserving than Lucroy, but I don't think either one gets it. I understand where you are coming from as a fan of the team. Gomez is the guy who seems like he can do more. Lucroy seems to be maxing out his ability, making him easier to root for. Doesn't make him a more deserving MVP candidate.
     
    outofplace, Aug 25, 2014
    #19
  8. Songbird

    Songbird Well-Known Member

    If someone is maxing out his ability -- like Lucroy -- with numbers to back it up, not to mention the work he's doing behind the plate for his pitchers, it stands to reason that someone would be worthy of the MVP.
     
    Songbird, Aug 25, 2014
    #20
  9. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Not more worthy than Gomez. Or Stanton. Or McCutchen. Just to name a few.
     
    outofplace, Aug 25, 2014
    #21
  10. old_tony

    old_tony Well-Known Member

    No argument on Stanton or McCutchen, but I seriously think you're over rating Gomez, who also has a penchant for giving up extra bases by airmailing throws to home with no regard to the cutoff man. The boneheaded misplay tally for this season would be something like: Gomez 34, Lucroy 0.
     
    old_tony, Aug 25, 2014
    #22
  11. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I think you are overrating Lucroy, which I can absolutely understand a Brewers fan doing.
     
    outofplace, Aug 25, 2014
    #23
  12. jr/shotglass

    jr/shotglass Well-Known Member

    I'm no Brewers fan, oop, but I think you're dismissing Lucroy pretty quickly. The guy has had a monster season. He's just not a household name.
     
    jr/shotglass, Aug 25, 2014
    #24
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