AL Cy Young

Lee went from a great pitcher's park to a great hitter's park, a place where he has always pitched badly. I don't think he is as bad as his last couple of starts, but the fade is for real, if just because of the change in his home field.

 

And CC and Clay pitch in hitters parks while the King pitches in Yellowstone.

 

Why not?

Anything that wins may indicate about a pitcher - such as the ability to pitch deep into games, for example - a closer look at other performance indicators and game logs can indicate even better. And voters have more than enough time to examine the entire record.

Why should wins, the one statistic that pitchers have the least control over, matter even in the slightest when evaluating a pitcher's performance?

 

If you want to figure that in, you have to consider the huge difference in the talent level around each guy as well.

 

I don't. All these variables are stupid.

 

Looks like Hernandez is just as good away from Yellowstone.

Hernandez at home -- 13 games, 95.0 innings, 6-4, 2.46 ERA, 3 CG, 94 Ks, 20 BB
Hernandez on road -- 14 games, 102.0 innings, 3-6, 2.56 ERA, 2 CG, SO, 89 Ks, 35 BB

 

Not according to the win hawks on the board.

 

None of the statistics you can cite control for all variables.

They don't account for one pitcher facing the Yankees, Angels, & Redsox 11 times, while another only faces them 3 times.

They don't account for one pitcher starting 16 or 17 games in a hitter's park, while another pitches his home games in a pitcher's park.

They don't account for one pitcher having a shortstop with range of Derek Jeter behind him who doesn't get to as many balls as a shortstop with tremendous range.

I'm all for looking at all of the stats.

But to ignore wins is ludicrous. If a pitcher has 20 wins, then he consistently out pitched his opponent.

Sure there are variables to be considered. Just as there are in the stats you're focusing on.

 

Wins or GTFO!

 

Thanks for boiling it down for me.

 

Who the hell can argue with such an educated take like that.

 

There are number of statistics available that account for all of these things. It's pretty easy to do, actually.