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AL Cy Young

Discussion in 'Sports and News' started by Dick Whitman, Aug 19, 2010.

  1. Della9250

    Della9250 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for playing, Jon Lester.
     
  2. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    I don't see how he would have deserved it over Price anyway, but yeah, that should end his candidacy. Ends up with a 3.25 ERA for the season.
     
  3. BB Bobcat

    BB Bobcat Active Member

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2013047597_felix_wins_over_a_cy_young_vot.html

    Another voter yesterday told me he's voting for Felix. I think he's got it.
     
  4. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Mark Whicker of the Orange County Register says it's OK to vote for Felix to win the Cy this year. Just don't do it again!

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/hernandez-275971-sabathia-weaver.html

    Most likely Trevor Cahill has been eliminated from the discussion since his name's wrong in here.
     
  5. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Tom Weir knows that winners win!

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2010/11/feliz-hernandez-cc-sabathia-al-cy-young/1
     
  6. Guy_Incognito

    Guy_Incognito Well-Known Member

    Those sabrematricians & their newfangled statistics like "quality starts".
     
  7. TheSportsPredictor

    TheSportsPredictor Well-Known Member

    Murray Chass is worried about these "new-fangled stats" that could give King Felix the Cy Young. After all, Steve Carlton was good enough to go 27-10 with a shitty team. And some guy from 1951 won 20 games for a loser team. Why couldn't King Felix do that if he's so good??



    http://www.murraychass.com/?p=2621
     
  8. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Nice to see people willing to go to any length to justify keeping their heads buried as far up their own asses as possible.
     
  9. Ilmago

    Ilmago Guest

    Wins are one of the most overrated stat when it comes to pitchers.
     
  10. Oz

    Oz Well-Known Member

    I think we're going to be surprised by the margin Hernandez wins by today. I've heard people saying close vote. I think Felix will win handily.
     
  11. LongTimeListener

    LongTimeListener Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to disagree with the board notion of Murray Chass as a useless old crankpot, heavens be, but in this particular case he is 1,000 percent right. That defensive "metric" measures nothing except the creativity of the programmer who came up with it.
     
  12. outofplace

    outofplace Well-Known Member

    Perhaps he is right about that small detail, but when it comes to his overall point, he is upholding an image of a useless old crankpot. Even he admits that Hernandez is the best pitcher in the American League, but he can't get past the all-mighty win as a pitching statistic.

    He is wrong about the overall point. He is wrong to suggest that Hernandez should have won the Cy Young Award last year, when Greinke was better. And he is wrong when he tries to argue that Sabathia's victory total isn't being counted. It is, just not to the point of ignoring every other measure. It isn't some "new-fangled) statistic that people are looking at when they argue for or vote for Hernandez. ERA is not new-fangled. Neither are strikeouts and innings pitched. Even WHIP has been around for quite a while.
     
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