All-purpose Herman Cain fun thread

Dick Whitman · Nov 1, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

As usual, good insight by Ryan Lizza.

These types of fringe candidates don’t truly prepare for the absurdities and difficulties of a Presidential campaign because in their heart of hearts they never believed they would make it very far.

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/10/the-fringe-frontrunner.html#ixzz1cTl1AkHh

YankeeFan · Nov 1, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Not a lot of money:

The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 — a year’s salary — in severance pay to a female staff member in the late 1990s after an encounter with Herman Cain, its chief executive at the time, made her uncomfortable working there, three people with direct knowledge of the payment said on Tuesday.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/us/politics/herman-cain-accuser-got-a-years-salary-in-severance-pay.html?_r=1&hp
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And, it doesn't look like the payment was all related to Cain's actions:

Four people with contemporaneous knowledge of the incident said the encounter had taken place in the context of a work outing during which there was heavy drinking, a hallmark, they said, of outings with an organization that represents the hospitality industry. They spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid being publicly drawn into the dispute, and declined to provide details of the encounter, saying they did not want to violate the privacy of the woman.

Two of them said that other factors had been involved in her severance, and that other, less-loaded issues had been making her unhappy at the association. But they said the encounter with Mr. Cain had added an emotional charge, and contributed to the size of her payment. One former colleague familiar with the details said such a severance was not common, especially for an employee with the woman’s years at the association and her pay grade.
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Pilot · Nov 1, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

I love stories like this:

Attorney for Cain accuser: Cain is lying:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/01/cain-blames-time-for-change-in-story/?hpt=hp_c1

She wants to go public with her side of the story, he said, but she's confined to a confidentiality agreement with the National Restaurant Association, where she made the charges against Cain in the late 1990s. At the time, Cain was president of the group.
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Let me translate:
"He sexually harassed me, but unfortunately I signed this agreement so I can't tell you he sexually harassed me, but if I hadn't signed that agreement, I'd tell you he sexually harassed me. As is, though, I can't talk about how he sexually harassed me."

I wonder at what point you violate the terms of that agreement.

LongTimeListener · Nov 1, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

YankeeFan said:

Not a lot of money:

The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 a years salary in severance pay to a female staff member in the late 1990s after an encounter with Herman Cain, its chief executive at the time, made her uncomfortable working there, three people with direct knowledge of the payment said on Tuesday.
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I believe the significance here is that the year's salary part directly contradicts the version Cain put forth yesterday -- that is, after he finally admitted that he knew something about it.
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YankeeFan · Nov 1, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

LongTimeListener said:

YankeeFan said:

Not a lot of money:

The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 — a year’s salary — in severance pay to a female staff member in the late 1990s after an encounter with Herman Cain, its chief executive at the time, made her uncomfortable working there, three people with direct knowledge of the payment said on Tuesday.
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I believe the significance here is that the year's salary part directly contradicts the version Cain put forth yesterday -- that is, after he finally admitted that he knew something about it.
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Cain's done a lousy job of telling his side of the story.

And, I'm pretty open to the idea that he probably acted somewhat inappropriately.

But, when you here "settlement" you start to think "guilty". When you read "$35,000", you start to think, "cheaper than defending a lawsuit" and better than risking a jury decision.

LongTimeListener · Nov 1, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

YankeeFan said:

LongTimeListener said:

YankeeFan said:

Not a lot of money:

The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 a years salary in severance pay to a female staff member in the late 1990s after an encounter with Herman Cain, its chief executive at the time, made her uncomfortable working there, three people with direct knowledge of the payment said on Tuesday.
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I believe the significance here is that the year's salary part directly contradicts the version Cain put forth yesterday -- that is, after he finally admitted that he knew something about it.
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Cain's done a lousy job of telling his side of the story.

And, I'm pretty open to the idea that he probably acted somewhat inappropriately.

But, when you here "settlement" you start to think "guilty". When you read "$35,000", you start to think, "cheaper than defending a lawsuit" and better than risking a jury decision.
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That's just one of the women, right? Weren't there two?
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YankeeFan · Nov 1, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

LongTimeListener said:

That's just one of the women, right? Weren't there two?
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Yes. At least two, and it's tough keeping them separated, since Cain seems to have intertwined the stories.

We don't know how the other one was settle yet, I don't think.

LongTimeListener · Nov 1, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

I have to hand it to him, though, I have newfound respect after the yeah I suppose there might be others but those allegations will be bullshit answer.

trifectarich · Nov 2, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Unless that person has worked there for 25 years, it is absurd to believe a employee making $35,000 a year gets a one-year severance package. That's simply not the real world.

Azrael · Nov 2, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Why does anyone anywhere take Herman Cain, or his scandals, seriously?

Boom_70 · Nov 2, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Azrael said:

Why does anyone anywhere take Herman Cain, or his scandals, seriously?
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He wears sandals? That's it for me. Check please.

TigerVols · Nov 2, 2011

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Herman's changed his story so many times, I half expect his next defense to be:

"Woman? No, she was 15 so I didn't know what 'woman' you were talking about!"

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